A Police report against a flyer produced by Economic Adviser to DAP Secretary General Tony Pua this evening. The Damansara Utama DAP candidate aspirant was alleged to have produced a flyer deemed laced with malicious intent against how the Government handled religious issues involving non-Muslims.
The Police report was made by Petaling Jaya Utara UMNO Youth Head Mohamad Azli Mohemed Saad at the Damansara Utama Police station at 10.45 pm. Several Petaling Jaya Utara UMNO Youth members accompanied Azli, at the eve of the Chinese New Year.
Azli wanted to Police to investigate items mentioned in the flyer, he vehemently thought was an effort to incite and instigate the emotions of the non Muslims in Petaling Jaya. Apparently, the flyer was only hand-delivered and found placed in the post box of non Muslim homes around Damansara Utama.
It is clear the flyers, which was printed in English and Mandarin, were designed to remind the non Muslims in Petaling Jaya Utara on how cases such as Lina Joy, Subashini, Kaliammal, Revathi and others were handled and decided and the emotions of the non Muslims are being pitted, stirred and gambled. All of these, are extracted and conveniently reproduced in such away, at the point where the XII General Elections have been rumoured to be very near.
Oxford educated cyber technoprenuer Tony Pua made his fortune listing his dotcom company Cyber Village on the Singapore Stock Exchange, announced his entry into DAP almost a year ago. He has been strongly rumoured running against Petaling Jaya Utara MP, Dato’ Paduka Chew Mei Fun, who is also the Parliamentary Secretary of Women, Family and Community Development. Despite of the “Whizz kid” cliche’ that the 36 year old has been tagged with, Ernest & Young published an audit report that SESDAQ listed company Cyber Village, which he cashed-out from and made a fortune, maybe running into difficulties. Thus this undermines his position as DAP leader-in-waiting Lim Guan Eng’s Economic Adviser.
I read the flyer and find nothing wrong or extraordinary with it. All the incidents mentioned therein did happened. No flavouring was added.
So, why the police report Mohamad Azli Mohemed Saad? Got alot of free time?
May I suggest you take your family and visit OKT’s kong hee fatt choy open house then.
“Kong Hee Fatt Choy” to all.
The flyer is not saying anything new. In fact the examples cited were reported in the main stream media. Tony had omitted many cases that have that foreign news picked up. (see http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/global.php?id=1386478)
I wonder if Azli can think rationally. After all, he is a Muslim first and that may explain his lack of ability to rational thinking.
i guess both of u are non-muslims judging from the way both of u commented. John, i think u should think rationally as well and being a racist prick that u are. i guess rationalism means nothing to u. as for u aiyo, i guess theres nothing much i can say.. the way u comment shows that u are very much like John.I guess u dont understand what unity means. Anyway, have a Happy Chinese New Year to both of u.
yes, it is true.
examples cited in the letter are just happenings that were reported in the mainstream and electronic media before.
and the arguments tony put up was fair enough, that it is not his open argument but also arguments that belong to a lot of people.
azli lodged a report to ask the police to investigate items mentioned in the flyer.
i am lauching as if azli did not read the newspapers. the items did happen, perhaps he should read papers from other languages or just visit malaysiakini.com or attending any DAP forums.
the papers he is reading now certainly do not disseminate enough information to him which it is suppose to do.
Welcome to Bodohland, the land of monkeys and apes. Day in day out, racist motherfuckers – Chinks, Kelingdians, Monyet Malays – spit on each other and live a delusional live.
Any surprise why Bodohland is a third world sewer in the middle of nowhere? Close your eyes when you’re in Malaysia, take a few breaths, and soon you’ll feel no different from being in a 4th world african country. That’s what Bodohsia is heading.
Haram jadah chauvinis chauvinis DAP ni!
Ingatkan DAP lama lama saja macam ni????
Rupanya DAP baru pun sama!
Tony Pua dan DAP boleh kaa, sebarkan risalah mengenai kes kes yang sedang dibacarakan, i.e. Subashini, Revathi etc etc ?????
Ini menunjukan KURANG AJAR maksima!!!! Apa saja asalkan DAP tergamak perkudakan, asalkan politik sempit golongan KURANG AJAR ini digunakan untuk sakitkan hati majoriti rakyat Malaysia!!!!
Bless those who persecute you;
bless and do not curse them.
Belove, never avenge yourselves,
but leave it to the wrath of God.
If your enemy is hungry feed him;
if he is thirsty, give him a drink.
Do not be overcome by evil,
but overcome evil with good.
..Remember, all events happened yesterday & today were all illogical.
‘Malaysian Love Malaysian’
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Anak Watan,
Dah baca dan tahu apa yang di tulis flyer tu.??
Apa yang di tulis tu semua dari surat khabar, tak tahu ke.? Tak baca surat khabar ke.?
What a stupid this tony pua .. got so many time aaa doing this thing …
hope anyone who said it already in newspaper elobrate it more … to write in one paper like tony chua did it only from he view … ohh whatever i see what he thinking is against islam and Malay first .. look what he write “Now she have to live away from the country she love for the fear of presecution” .. see what a lame tactic laaaa …
and also couple at KLCC and Ipoh … ooohhhh .. i know its ok for them to romen-romen .. but dont do it at public aaarrr .. and now he blame to Islam … haiyooo …
Very funny is hundred temple and church is being torn down .. hahhahahaha
oooo tony chua better you spend more time for your family …
Even if it done by a political party, the police report made is a fair effort by a group of citizens of PJ Utara to prevent any attempt to instigate racial sensitivity and strain the good neighbour relation in PJ Utara.
If Tony Pua had not done anything unlawful or any racially inspired attempt to gather vote, he and other commentators should have no fear.
By the look of it, Tony Pua is indulging in cheap racial politics, clearly the trait of DAP politics. If he is found to be so, after investigation by the police, it is only fair that he be brought to court for attempting to incite racial dissatisfaction and committing contempt of court offense. Answer to the judge!
Much to their claim of being matured after 50 years, DAP have not shed it’s racial legacy from the days of PAP LKY’s in early Malaysia. LKY was responsible in inciting racial demonstrations all throughout the country. The years of LKY’s presence was a racially tense moment in Malaysian history that lead to 13 May 1969.
THe years of DAP sinpired racial instigation culminated into the bloody incident of 13 Mei 1969 racial riot. DAP was involved in the repeated demonstrations where racial anger was visibly and loudly expressed into racial slur targeted at Malays on May 10th and 12th 1969.
This is really dissappointing after much hope is placed on the young educated new generation of DAP youth. Unfortunately, leopards can’t shed their spots. Even if Tony Pua is given the benefit of the doubt over a flyer which he clearly signed, he has to follows the ways of the party.
Recently, Chew Mei Fun reminded PJ Utara to avoid another 13 May 1969 incidence as caution from the emotional politics of DAP. That well intentioned reminder was spinned out of proportion by DAP activist and sympathisers in the blogosphere as though she was planning for one. Clearly now, their intention to spin Chew Mei Fun was for them to indulge in racial politics.
Contrary to the claim of fairness and innocence by DAP sympathisers in the earlier comments, the flyer clearly demonstrates Tony Pua’s attempt to fan communal dissatisfaction on cases where judgement are already made and some are still impending in the courts.
The court was used by the respective disputing parties to settle disputes and it’s decision must be respected. Furthermore, court cases must and have already reach it’s finality. Attempt to dispute the court decisions can be considered as contempt of court. So does trying to stir the public as it interfere with the running of the courts.
Clearly the middle class and educated PJ Utara are educated enough to know the court is the place to settle dispute. Succumbing to such cheap politics will only upset the peaceful neighbour relation of PJ Utara. Politicians with such dangerous intention in thier quest to garner vote has to be rejected.
Clearly he has nothing to “offer” the constituency of PJ Utara. He is a fake “economic adviser” who was a shrwed businessmen that sold a dying company to unsuspecting buyers. Now, it seems he is selling his candidacy to the unsuspecting citizens of PJ Utara by instigating racial unrest.
Singapore trained Tony can take his racist ways back to LKY’s SIngapore!
We all know what DAP stands for! They are a bunch of socialists! Heck, for those who support them are just like those who embrace communism.
Thats not what Malaysia is all about. Malaysia is about respecting the fact that we are multi religious and multi racial. And that is what the bastard Pua does not understand, hence the blatant gal to publishing and distributing this racist letter. Even worse, he distributed to only non-malay houses.
Thats what is known as, “Baling batu sembunyi tangan”, or in less civilized terms, “Takde Telor!”
I for one put a feather on Azli’s cap for doing the right thing, realizing the possibility of receiving appaling responses from those ‘communist supporters’.
I think those bastards who lack the patriotism such as the Bastard Pua should just pack their bags and migrate out. So should those who support his ideals.
You ‘communists’ best move to US and make positive changes there. At least you can prevent future wars and stop their global tyranical conquests!
For those who are quick to shoot your bullets, please read between the lines. The rise of Fundamentalism, and “Islamization” really worries others especially Hindus and Christians. That is why this message was brought up. Tony is merely highlighting what was obvious and lingering in the mind of non-Muslims. As a politician Tony can cleary see the worries of the people.
What the non-Muslims do not know, is that UMNO is the mastermind of “Systemic de-Islamization of Islam”. I prefer the term de-Islamization as the original Islam is moderate.
Muhammad was heavily influenced by Jesus Christ via his mentor Waraqa, a Christian. Christianity is about winning the hearts and not compulsion.
Noble Verse 2:256 “Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from error: whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy handhold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things.”
The Holy Quran prohibits Muslims to force any person into Islam. Muslims must not let people resent Islam and Muslims. It is HARAM to force anyone to be a Muslim, including the Malays!
My take, as Islam is moderate religion, let us not allow Wahhabism and certain quarters in UMNO using Islam as a political tool to misled the people.
If the issues in the flyer is of concern to all Malaysia, why was it only meant for the non Malay/Muslim household.
Tony has yet to get his political career going and yet he is already exhibiting political hipocrasy.
If Tony Pua is serious about creating a Malaysia without racial segregation and communalism, he should not indulge in it.
Yuck … I am not falling for his boyish smiles. He is evil and cheated buyer of his companies.
Enough of all these snobbish Oxford and Cambridge wannabees. Doesn’t matter what party they are. Don’t trust them. Looks like they are not taught humility and forgot to be Malaysian.
I am giving my vote for Chew Mei Fun. If she gets her second term, she will improve further in Government to the benefit of PJ Utara.
To Malaysian,
To me the issues as raised by Tony Pua is an issue not related to my religious inclination.
I do know what unity means and am committed to it just like you, the only thing is that maybe your version differs from mine.
I have no problem with you not agreeing to what I have written which I feel is not offensive but your racial remarks left a bad taste in my mouth.
As to the others who condemn Tony Pua, I respect their view though I may not agree with them.
Kong Hee Fatt Choy to all of you.
Well whether the icidents are true or not is not important. What was important was the malicious intent of this DAP guy who tried to get some cheap votes stirring emotions. If elections were to be won with stirring emotions, I guess, PAS and UMNO should start stirring muslim emotions, they will not only win the elections.. but with such stirred emotions country is doomed…
Yes either PAS or UMNO whoever stirred emotions, will win, but it will create a deep divide. Violence shall ensue making lives horrible for every malaysian, afcourse the minority, being a lesser number are going to bear the bigger immediate brunt of life in HELL, but with a violent country so shall everyone fall together.
This is a cheap stupid way of winning elections.
The truth here is, if DAP were to use these tactics to win minority votes, it will ultimately backfire, cos minority is minority, and more Muslims will take a more conservative stand and support UMNO and ignore all their other shortcommings cos we will see them as those who protect muslim interests.
[...] Em, someone lodged a police report against Tony Pua. [...]
PJ Utara Resident wrote:
Much to their claim of being matured after 50 years, DAP have not shed it’s racial legacy from the days of PAP LKY’s in early Malaysia. LKY was responsible in inciting racial demonstrations all throughout the country. The years of LKY’s presence was a racially tense moment in Malaysian history that lead to 13 May 1969.
THe years of DAP sinpired racial instigation culminated into the bloody incident of 13 Mei 1969 racial riot. DAP was involved in the repeated demonstrations where racial anger was visibly and loudly expressed into racial slur targeted at Malays on May 10th and 12th 1969.
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It is a fact that the massacre of the Chinese was planned by then Selangor Mentri Besar Harun Idris using 4D youths — the Mat Rempit of those days. Harun is aligned to then deputy premier Tun Razak. After the mass slaughter of the Chinese, in which the Chinese simply defended themselves, Razak formed the National Operation Council, which effectively made then Prime Minister Tunku’s parliament powerless. The Council subsequently designed and implemented the NEP. At that time, Razak et al, including former premier Mahathir Mohamed, were labeled “ultras” — racial extremists or simply racist.
In my humble opinion, the massacre of the Chinese in 69 was a ploy by Tun Razak to grab power. This is confirmed by many foreign correspondents who were stationed here at that time.
At that time, the Chinese was a big minority, about 40 per cent. Subsequently, many have left. Also, Indonesians and Filipinos were “imported” and made citizens to increase the number of “Malays/bumiputeras”. Yet, some Chinese who have lived here before Merdeka and contributed much to nation building are still stuck with a red identity card.
Ultraman wrote:
You ‘communists’ best move to US and make positive changes there.
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For your information, it was the communists who fought off the Japanese when the Brits ran off. Then they fought the Brits for independence but the Brits played them out by forming a pact with the Alliance.
Let me make it clear, it was not Malays vs Chinese. But an event instigated by certain UMNO leaders and members.
Jedyoong, so, i can safely say that u allign yourself to the communist? why dont u go follow suit then? why dont u ask ur elders on whether did the communist did any good to them?
as for you aiyo, i never considered myself as a racist but your comment earlier left a bitter taste in my mouth too. you should consider what the muslims felt once they have read the flyer. i bet u have muslim friends too right? sorry if i was a bit too harsh but put urself in my shoes, wouldnt u feel the same too? why stoop so low and use religion as a political agenda? there are many other ways of showing your political views and religion is not one of them. i think if the DAP esp. Tony Pua is going to resort to this then i guess the DAP does not have anything else intelegent to talk about then.
Malaysian, I suggest YOU READ UP ON REAL HISTORY. I never said I’m a communist. The communists fought off the Japanese. It’s a HISTORICAL FACT. Tks.
Ultraman wrote:
We all know what DAP stands for! They are a bunch of socialists!
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For your information, the NEP is a socialistic policy. So Tun Razak is arguably the ultimate socialist. We are effectively a socialist state. How many of our biggest companies are effectively controlled by the state? Who is spends the most money? The state not the private sector. Subsidies, NEP, GLCs, a larger proportion of state expenditure are characteristics of a socialist state.
Also which is worse — socialism or fascism?
Jed Yoong
I am the owner of a href=”http://pesanan-pesanan.blogspot.com”>13 Mei: Dari Kacamata Melayu blog that serves to dispell the chauvanistic and racially inspired provocation by Dr Kua Kia Soong throughg his book May 13. Most of the view points and arguments against are compiled and hyperlinked. Notice Dr Syed Husin Ali, VP of PKR and former President of Parti Rakyat, questioned some aspect of the book’s academic validity.
Clearly your rebuttal to PJU Resident is influenced by Dr Kua Kia’s book as she claims and I quote:
1. “It is a fact that the massacre of the Chinese was planned by then Selangor Mentri Besar Harun Idris using 4D youths …
Answer: Do read the book The Reluctant Politician by Singaporean Ooi and published by ISEAS Singapore, you will find a passage where Tun Dr Ismail made the same wrong assumption and was corrected by the Police Chief. The gathering at the MB’s home is not a planned gathering but the Malays going in hordes to express their dissatisfaction to the DAP and … racial slur after their election victory. The subsequent event are mob rule taking the law in their own hands.
2. “In my humble opinion, the massacre of the Chinese in 69 was a ploy by Tun Razak to grab power…
Answer: You should learn and read up first before trying to express an irresponsible opinion purely by rasa-rasa on such explosive and sensitive event. If it is merely to perpetuate Dr Kua’s book, then I suggest you dump that piece of crap!
If your argument is taken, did Tun Razak planned the whole so-called coup or after the incidence happened? This would mean if Tun Razak planned or merely react to the situation.
Tun Razak’s dissatisfaction of Tunku is now widely known but not then. But did Tun Abdul Razak EVER went overboard as DPM or NOC Chairman to make decision without the concurrrence of Tunku? Read the Singapore written and published Reluctant Politician again.
Do not bring the so-called K Das tape and some comments of Tunku in the book on Tun Razak in the pix. Much as we loved and acknowledged his effort and diplomacy to secure independence, Tunku has similarity with Pak Lah and happoy just being “the happiest Prime MInister in the world.” He was reaching paranoia and again read the Reluctant Politician for there is an insider account of it.
Would Tun Razak ever get to do all this sort of coup with Tun Dr Ismail around? Tun Dr Ismail was undisputed as a man of integrity and was invited back into Government by Tun Razak after the 13 May incident to cut short his retirement from Government for medical reason.
There is many more questions but can you answer and not spin these qustions first?
3. “ … Indonesians and Filipinos were “imported” …”
Could Jed Yoong explain in exact year when inter-racial strife occur and the exodus of Indonesian and Filipino migration. Or in broader time scale, whose era – Tunku, Tun Razak, Hussein Onn , Tun Dr Mahathir? Was the migration political or economics or traditional?
I suggest you read my blog first to hear the answer to much disputes brought about by Dr Kua. Talk to the sincere elders from all races to have a picture of the true event.
Should you feel it is below you to read blogs, read the book by Tunku Abdul Rahman (reprinted) and the full NOC report (heard available in full at the public library for photostating).
From reading all your blogs, past and present, you having successfully migrated from former “Rocket” editor to be a close associate of Wong Chun Wai.
For you to take a position based on foreign embassy reports (I always wonder how Dr Kua could get access to such documents) and old foreign press news, it shows you are easily gullible to anti-Malaysia motivated elements from abroad.
If we love Malaysia, we do not try to agitate peace and try to agitate the common and simple folk with issues better be dealt with by the knowledgable.
Lets keep politics within the realm of politics, and disputes within the realm of the court. Promote peace among the people.
Apa yang DAP dah buat untuk orang orang Melayu, sebagai lebih 60% warga Malaysia????
NOTHING!!!!
Semenjak DAP ditubuhkan, oleh Devan Nair, sebagai ‘alat’ PAP untuk TERUS MENERUS KACAU tanahair Bangsa Melayu pada 1967 (selepas Singapura diNYAH KELUO dari Malaysia!), DAP HANYA bersifat anti-Melayu, anti-Islam dan anti-Article 153 sahaja!
Semasa British yang bagi kemerdekaan untuk Malaya dan sebilangan rakyat Malaya pun bersetuju mengenai Hak Istimewa Orang Orang Melayu, Ugama Islam sebagai ugama Persekutuan Malaya dan kemudian, majoriti rakyat sendiri memberikan endorsement keatas DEB yang dilancarkan 1971, siapa pula DAP nak persoalkan mengenai ini semua????
Malah, apabila Tun Razak lancarkan majlis rundingan Negara untuk cari penyelesaian pasca 13 Mei 69 dan semua pihak dijemput untuk berunding, DAP secara ANGKUHNYA ENGGAN MENYERTAI!!!!
Sungguh jelas dan nyata, apabila segala apa yang DAP persoalkan rata rata tidak diterima majoriti rakyat Malaysia, termasuk keturunan Bukan Melayu sendiri, mereka mulalah buat cara politik sempit, sengaja menyakitkan hati dan chauvinis Cina pulak!
Apa yang Tony Pua buat ini adalah kesinambungan berterusan sifat anti-Melayu, anti-Islam dan niat jahat chauvinism Cina DAP keatas kepentingan, perasaan dan aspirasi orang orang Melayu dan Islam, lebih 60% warga Malaysia ini!
DAP ini tidak ubah bisul (abses) atau kanser dalam masyarakat majmuk dan plural Malaysia. Kalau tak diubati, nanti ianya merebak dan nanah makin banyak. Salah satu cara untuk ubati bisul ialah INCISION and DRAINAGE! DAP wajar di I & Dkan dari sistem masyarakat Malaysia, untuk kesejahteraan majoriti!!!!
Jed Yoong … hahaha … from Tony Pua’s assistant and Rocket Editor to the The Star’s Wong Chun Wai associate. Wong is now at the beck and call of the Tingkat Boys. What do you make of her?
You want to know REAL HISTORY Jed?
In the early days of PAP, Communist in the worker union were in their fold. LKY was much involved with the Union. Later he imprisoned the Communist to make him look more yellow banana … yellow outside and white inside.
Who is LKY kidding? He administer Singaproe as a Communist dictator, not as a democratic country. Who is DAP trying to talk of democrasy and human rights here?
It is quite fair for Malaysian to call Jed a communist. Reading her profile in her blog, she is much associated and likely to be a sympathiser of Communist Singapore.
At the BUM 2007 event, ther was murmur that Jed almost did what Tony Pua did to buyer of his former company. Bloggers were calling her unreliable, dishonest and back stabber.
Wonder why The Star reporting it. Did Jed Yoong tipped and advised Wong Chun Wai of it?
Jed Yoong,
Jadah punya buku sejarah yang kamu baca? Buku sejarah mahmud jun utk buat samaran untuk pergi ronggeng dalam cerita P Ramlee ke? Yg itu ada byk gambar bikini.
Bintang Tiga atau Komunis melawan Jepun itu kamu mahu akui sebagai pejuang kemerdekaan. DAP telah menganjurkan pemikiran ini untuk membela pembelot2 dan terrorist ini. Pantat!
Mereka ini adalah Komunis yang membawa kekejaman dan kesengsaraan kepada pelbagai kaum, khususnya orang Melayu di kampong2 di Malaya. Mereka ini adalah diterajui oleh cauvanis cina walaupun ada beberapa kerat orang melayu yg terpaksa menganggotai kerana demi survival dan untuk menyelamatkan diri dari kezaliman mereka.
Kezaliman yg di bawa Cina2 Bintang Tiga terhadap orang2 Melayu adalah punca orang Melayu sentiasa sangsi dan was2 dengan orang Cina hingga hari ini. orang Melayu adalah kaum yg sentiasa terbuka. Sejarah orang Melayu menunjukkan orang Melayus ebagai bangsa yang terbuka dan tidak tertutup seperti sejarah China. Orang Melayu tidak mengamal perkauman dan semangat kekitaan seperti kaum2 pendatang.
Sering kali perasaan syak wah sangka itu lebih terjelas dari mereka dan hingga usaha baik utk memperbaiki pengamal agama di kalangan orang Islam pun dipertikaikan oleh mereka2 seperti Seanang.
Selain tindakan bintang tiga, perbuatan PAP yang menjadi dalang dibelakang rusuhan2 kaum yg berlaku dari tahun2 1963 hingga ke tahun 1965 dan melarat hingga ke menjadi tahun 1969. Sebelum itu, pada tahun2 1920an, Tan Cheng Lok pernah menuntut Malaya for Malayan.
Bayangkan sebelum tahiun 1957, Bintang Tiga dan pendatang2 yg rally belakang Tan Cheng Lok menuntut macam2 padahal mereka bukan rakyat pun!
PAP memulakan usaha dalam satu konvensyen pada tahun 1964 yg menghidupkan slagan baru Tan Cheng Lok dengan nafas baru ia-itu Malaysian Malaysia. Slogan ini masih yang begitu berlatarbelakang perkauman masih hidup dalam DAP. Ini hanya menunjukkan DAP adalah pelupur perkauman yang tidak putus2 dari sejarah perkauman mereka.
Mereka hanya mahu menidakkan peluang untuk orang melayu dan mengunjurkan dominasi satu kaum ke atas kaum yg lain tetapi di solek dgn pelbagai ideologi benang basah.
Jahatnya DAP adalah mereka menutup kerja2 perkauman jahat mereka dengan menuduh balik orang Melayu sebagai penggerak perkauman pula. Itulah busuknya hati merkea! Usaha untuk membantu orang Melayu dipanggil dan di brand sebagai perkauman, padahal hak mereka dan peluang mereka tidak di kacau pun.
Walau belajar ke Oxford pun, sesiapa yg mengikuti DAP tidak akan lari dari politik perkauman mereka.
Jed Yoong mahu mencemarkan sejarah Tun Razak sebagai komunis. Baik lah. Kiai Salleh adalah pahlawan Melayu yang membanteras Komunis di Batu Pahat. Dia pernah memasuki Bintang Tiga kerana terpaksa tetapi dia memerhatikan untuk menentang.
Tun Razak diakui pernah menjadi ahli Kelab Sosialis semasa belajar di London tetapi dia bukan ahli yang aktif tetapi hanya pemerhati. Dia tahu memilih mana yang baik utk diguna di Malaysia.
Jika DEB (1970-90) dan lain2 usaha untuk membantu rakyat termiskin dan membetulkan masyarakat, kenapa dia menentang polisi itu? Adakah Jed suka keadaan hanya orang cina yg kaya dan rakyat bangsa lain di tindas oleh peniaga2 dan ahli kroporat yg kebanykkan cina? Jed memang penentang DEB yg tegar. Jelas dia tidak memahami DEB. Cadangkan dia membaca blog My Ku Li utk mendengar penerangan dari syarahan Tengku Razaleigh.
Mungkin Jed perlu menunjukkan sempadan antara usaha membantu rakyat miskin dengan isma ideologi sosialis. Bukankah dalam dunia kapitalis ada juga program sosial utk membantu rakyat miskin?
Sean-ang,
Berhentilah cuba menunjukkan perjudis ugama kamu. Terangkan apa dia islamisasi yg kamu maksudkan? Adakah orang2 agama lain yang hak mereka untuk mengamal agama mereka dengan aman dan damai dinafikan? Saya lihat orang bukan islam lebih tidak bertimbang rasa dalam pengamalan ugama mereka ke atas penganut ugama persekutuan (bukan ugama rasmi).
Pemikiran kamu seolah2 Malaysia adlah agam sekular. Bukan kita bukan negara sekular. Malah negara ini menggalakkan rakyatnya mengamalkan agama. Memang sebagai agama persekutuan dan agama yg bersejarah sebagai sebahagian undang2 negar aini dari amsa lampau mestilah mempunyai kelebihan dari agama lain, Malah hanya islam saja yg ada sebutan dalam perlembagaan.
Adakah dengan hanya memenangi kes2 interfaith dalam mahkamah baru kamu kata tidak ada islamisasi? Itu adalah hak mahkamah dan keputusan mahkamah perlu di hormati! Adakah sean-ang dan DAP menghormati mahkamah?
Ini pasti kerja2 fasik2 macam haris ibrahim dan malik imtiaz yg mempengaruhi pemikiran kamu. Mereka tidak layak utk bercakap utk islam kerna sudah menghampiri kafir. Sebagai peguam mereka sepatutnya berbicara di mahkamah tetapi hanya berbicara di demnstrasi di jalanan dan orang ramai yg tidak faham undang2.
Ada ke peguam2 pembela dan accin berbuat demikian? Tidak kerana mereka dalah peguam yg bertanggungjawab yang tidak mahu membawa huru hara anatara kauman dan ugama? Haris dan Malik adalah peguam tak guna dan tak bertaggungjawab!
Baik kamu berhenti menyebut ayat Quran yang kamu sendiri tak percaya, tak faham dan tak faham. Siapa paksa? Dah perjalanan undang2 dan perlembagaan, apa kamu bising2. Ia di gubal oleh rakyat melalaui proses demikrasi. Kalau tak setuju, bermakna kamu tak setuju dengan suara ramai. Perlembagaan tidak boleh di ubah dengn hanya suara UMNO saja. Ianya dilihatkan perlu oleh semua kaum yg bersama dalam BN.
DAP bising tapi dia hanya mewakili sebilangan kecil rakyat dan kaum cina., AHli mereka pun hanya 6,000 orng berbanding dgn jutaan ahli BN!!!
Kamu parti apa sean-ang? KAlau tak ada parti. lagi jangan cakap banyak2! Guna hak bersuara utk cakap sorang2!
Tony Pua,
Nampak kamu ni budak hingus yang mat perjudis tentang islam. Kamu berasal dari kampung Batu Pahat, macam mana tak faham2. Kenapa tak balik kampung kita dan bertanding? Apa sebuk2 di KL?
To Malaysian,
So what you are saying is that unity should be of utmost priority. I agree. But then why are those things happening in Tony Pua’s flyer. Why! why! why!.
Malaysian, the sword cuts both ways.
If you condemn Tony Pua’s flyer than by your admission,
should also condemn the acts highlighed therein, Hisamuddin infamous “kris” act and the delegates thunderous applause supporting it etc etc. Did I hear you say any of those things?
Unity is “goal” in football. Everyone has to play a part. It’s just not only the team on the field but also the spectators of the game.
Jed Yoong
Get yr fact right!
The 1931 census put the chinese population in Malaaya (to include Singapore) as 39%. Peninsular Malaysia. Peninsular Chinese in 1931 is 33.9%. The 1970 figure for Chinese population at 35.4%.
Much of Chinese return to the mainland China was around the time of the Aliens Ordinance 1933 to stem unlimited migration from China at the discomfort of the Malay rulers. Another was post World War era like the return of the famous capitalist Tan Lak Sai to help the new Communist Government.
Back then, there are 300,000 CHinese without proper documents that couldn’t be converted to Malaysian citizenship. When one leader met Deng Xios Peng about this, China refused to accept.
You complain abt Indonesian and Filipino be given citizenship but you want Chinese without proper document be easily given citizenship kah? Indonesian and Filipino belong to this georgraphical culture of Malay Nusantara. What justification to simply give the red IC Chinese?
You are showing yr Sino centric Malaysian Malaysia, Jed Yoong. How about answering it here, Jed Yoong?
Aiyomanaboleh
You sound like someone open to differences in opinion but you shouldn;t be judging other type of opinion.
You said:
… but your racial remarks left a bad taste in my mouth.
It just shows you do not understand what being racist is about. You think you have spoken somethign is fair but is actually racist. Just shows your lack of sensitivity to the other races!
Tony Pua Learn somethign here if you represent the New DAP. Get rid of Malaysian Malaysia and Lim Kit Siang …
Sean Ang ni agnostik! Tiada kepercayaan khusus, tapi nak bercakap tentang ugama Islam.
Islam adalah agama yang turun dari langit (Wahyu dtg dari Allah yang dibawa malaikat Jibrail (Archangel Gabriel) terus kepada Muhammad S.A.W., persuruh Allah (messenger). Al Quran sebagai Kitabullah, masih lagi terpelihara (authentic), tanpa ditambah-susut, sejak ianya dirakamkan zaman Khalifah Usman Al Affan.
Islam yang diterapkan dalam proses “Systematic Islamization” ialah Islam yang membawa kepada progress. Tiada Wahabism dalam Negara ini!
(Wanita dibenarkan bekerja, keluo membeli belah dan beriadah, memandu, bersuara, menjawat jawatan utama dan lain lain). Kalau tak faham apa Wahabism, jangan cakapla!
Negara ini membenarkan penganut ugama lain bebas menjalankan ugama mereka, selagi TIDAK BERCANGGAH dan MEMPENGARUHI orang orang Islam. Lihat bagaimana kuil kuil dan gereja dibenarkan diujudkan dan perayaan keugamaan seperti Deepavali, Thaipusam, Wesak dan Krismas menjadi cuti umum. Patung berhala sebesor besornya dibenarkan dibina, diBatu Caves, Penang dan Kelantan. Kedai kedai menjual bahan bahan ibadat Bukan Islam juga bebas dibenarkan ujud.
Ada ka dalam dunia ni, penganut sesuatu agama yang menjadi kurang 8% warganegara, diberikan dua hari berbeza sebagai cuti umum untuk menghormati perayaan keugamaan mereka????
Berapa peratus penganut Kristian dari warganegara Malaysia ini, sehinggakan Hari Krismas diberikan sebagai cuti umum?
Aiyomanaboleh,
Mana boleh samakan apa yang Tony Pua buat dengan Hishamuddin????
Hishamuddin, menghunus Keris (sebahagian dari Regalia warisan Bangsa Melayu), sebagai ritual baru Pemuda UMNO dan regalia baru Pemuda UMNO itu (”Keris Panca Warisan”), dalam Dewan Tun Hussein Onn, semasa Persidangan Tahunan Pemuda UMNO. Tony Pua, taborkan risalah menghentam cara kes kes perlaksanaan dan pentadbiran ugama Islam dan membangkitkan kemarahan penghuni RUMAH RUMAH BUKAN MUSLIM SAHAJA????
Mana sama!!!!
Pesanan,
DAP lah parti yang PALING TIDAK DEMOKRATIK dalam Negara ini! Malah, dictatorial! Tengok Maharaja Lim Kit Siang sendiri. Menjadi Setiausaha Agung semenjak 1967. Sekarang, menjadi Pengerusi, mempunyai kuasa eksekutif pula. Anak sendiri menjadi Setiausaha Agung. Menantu pula menjadi wakil rakyat diMelaka.
Dulu mengata UMNO “tidak demokratik” kerana menangguh pemilihan parti kerana Pilihanraya Umum bakal menjelang. Hari ini mereka pun buat yang sama. DAP CAKAP TAK SERUPA BIKIN!!!!
Kalau DAP ini demokratik, mana pergi pemimpin pemimpin mereka seperti Fan Yew Teng, Dr. Kua Kia Soong, Hu Sepang, Lee Lam Thye, Kerk Kim Hock, Wee Choo Keong dsbnya???? Kenapa balik balik Lim anak beranak ini semula????
Cicit Kiai Salleh,
Jed Yoong ini baca buku Dr Kua Kia Soong saja. Entah betul atau tidak bagaimana dan ketepatan agensi perisikan asing merakam peristiwa itu, Dr. Kua buta buta guna laporan ini semata mata untuk tafsir peristiwa 13 Mei. Analisa sempit dan bias ini dijadikan modal????
Komunis pejuang Kemerdekaan???? Komunis tambah sengsara dan menyulitkan rakyat Malaya lagi ada!!!!
Tony Pua bukan Batu Pahat lagi dah. Tony Pua kini adalah anak didik dan AYAM TAMBATAN PAP, untuk tentukan orang orang Melayu sentiasa diKACAU!
Tapi kalau singkap sejarahkan Cina Cina Batu Pahat inilah yang memain peranan besar untuk distabilize harmoni antara kaum dan bersifat anti Melayu! Mula mula Bintang Tiga bermaharaja lela membunuh Melayu selepas Jepun menyerah kalah. Kemudian Batu Pahat lahirkan Lim Kit Siang. Kini Tony Pua pulak!
Aku percaya penuh Tony Pua ini memang sengaja dikedepankan sebagai pelapis PAP untuk MEMBUAT KACAU dalam dunia Melayu!!!!
Dear you Tony Pua, Jed Yoong and those of similar ideas,
You stay in a country which believes in celebrating differences and make full progress out of it. You too hold Malaysian passports and ICs, you also cari makan in this country, you too went to school in Malaysia and in more ways than you can describe benefited from the Malay Govenment’s subsidies; by way of cheaper fuel, food, school fees etc.
By your hypocrisy, you now know what PJU voters want, and this means “NO TO DAP”!
Even in this blog you make lies, and we are not stupid.
Go take our protest to your Lim Kit Siang and tell him, that we do not want him, both of you and all those like you communists in the country! Go balik tongsan la!
Generally and comprehensively, there is racial & religious tolerance amongst Malaysians.
Ppl like Lina Joy, Subashini, Revathi and the likes are very isolated cases. Some really minority degenerates, like promoters and incorrigible advocates of “Article 11″ & HINDRAF choose to highlight & amplify, with atomic microscopic and highly opinionated skewed perspective on these very rare cases.
These so called “like minded” & “civil society” ppl, lurking amongst the ‘highly educated & affluent’ society (so they claim to be!), simply just want to be heroes, at the misery of some unfortunate Malaysians’ complications!
They conveniently omit & wholesomely discount the Malaysian masses do openhouses, attend weddings & funerals, parties & barbecues and tehtarik & booze everyday and sundry, et al, at large.
DAP LEADERS like TONY PUA is capitalizing and taking full opportunity for a razor-thin political mileage & now starting to instigate on this sensitive matter. Especially election is so bloody near and he desperately want to prove himself, to his Boss!
With his international exposure, corporate experience, name and much highlighted success story, he should know better and work on healthy and meaningful politics. Instead he resorted to typically old pathetic & stale DAP tactics. I hope biggots like him go to jail!
I was NEVER TONY PUA’s assistant. I think he is not that great. I am a freelance journalist. I did FREELANCE work for Tony. See, got it wrong again. Tsk Tsk Tsk.
Yes the bloggers also sent a surat layang alleging that i stole RM1000+ from the collection. They even asked Susan Loone to ‘expose’ me, with no evidence.
Why didn’t they make a police report? Bloggers show themselves to be a bunch of backstabbing liars with no intergrity.
The main culprit behind the BUM 2007 slander, which without me no one would have attended, is Soon Li Tsin of Malaysiakini. Soon was upset that I kicked her boyfriend Nat Tan out of the committee. I was pissed of at Nat for writing lies.
But I’ve accepted that most bloggers don’t check their facts.
BIG DOG, I hope you remove or edit the above accusations. I am very sick of all these lies floating all about because of Soon Li Tsin and Nat Tan of PKR.
Tks.
I think people should stop labeling people “communist”. The term has a range of meanings these days. What do you mean by “communist”? It is said that the term was coined by some people to justify their aggression. Something like the word “terrorist”.
Re May 13. I’ve read a range of sources. Dr Kua’s book is the most recent but not the most informative. Eye-witness accounts, from all ethic groups, and other interviews with foreign correspondents who served in Malaya were most useful to me.
Please give me some time to organise the material to publish on my blog.
Thanks for your views.
God Bless.
Gong Xi Fa Chai.
Cicit Kiai Salleh,
Sekiranya kamu Islam, sepatutnya kamu bangga seorang bukan Islam mempunyai sedikit pengetahuan dalam Islam. Adalah kamu Cicit Panglima Salleh? Seorang yang dikenali sebagai syirik? Konon-nya, mendapat ilmu dari harimau jadian.
Sebagai seorang bukan Islam kita dapat melihat bagaimana Islam mengunakan ISA terhadap mazhab Islam yang lain di Malaysia. Lihat Abdul Aziz Bari, “The use of ISA in Curbiing Shiism”.
Yakni, bukan sahaja orang Melayu tidak mempunyai hak untuk memilih agama di Malaysia, malah orang Melayu sendiri tidak berhak menganut mazhab Islam yang alternatif menurut pilihan sendiri. Belum-pun pergelutan Sunni-Syiah berakhir, Pak Lah memperkenalkan Islam Hadhari yang jelas mempunyai unsur unsur politik. Seolah olah ianya satu jerangkap samar untuk “checkmate” PAS, yang merupakan seteru politik yang paling dekat. Seharusnya Malaysia belajar dari Turki ataupun Indonesia.
Haris Ibrahim dan Malik Imtiaz memperjuangkan Islam menurut Islam yang sebenarnya. Siapa di antara kamu berani mempertahankan Ayah Pin? Yang jelas, perjuangan Haris and Malik adalah berdasarkan apa yang termaktub dalam perlembagaan and Al-Quran.
Anak Watan Malaya,
Jelas kamu sudah lupa sejarah. Terdapat tokoh tokoh Melayu seperti brahim Chik, Kamarulzaman Teh dan Shamsiah Fakeh. Perjuangan komunis ialah untuk mendapatkan kemerdekaan untuk Malaya.
Oleh Pendukung Golden Rule
Jed Yoong – Why turn defensive and go on hit and point fingers at others? I didn’t say you steal money.
I said “Jed almost did what Tony Pua did to buyer of his former company.” I meant to say Tony Pua misrepresented to the potential buyer. You were in the committee and met to promote the event but you didn’t attend.
Many found their name missing on the paid list. Again no mention of stealing money but would you consider that as reliable, honest and upfront? I don’t need to check any other fact to make such claim.
More important to me, you have yet to deny being Wong Chun Wai’s stooge and deny my accusation that you could have tipped off The Star of Tony Pua’s previous business dealing.
I’ve been surrounded by my Chinese neighbours for the last 20-25 years of my life and I am 25 years young come this May. I dont have any collection of memory or memories of any of them trying to torch me. or bully me. or do something bad towards me. and my family.
we lived for the past quater of century happily ever after
but this boy, Tony Phua decided he has to do against what my neighbours had done mostly for the past 25 years. And that is harbouring hatred and create this ill feeling amongst us.
Maybe this Tony has not had something we have here. Love and easy feeling among the chinese and indians and malays. How unlucky he is that boy Tony.
Or he had been influenced by the Little Dot Master LKY? Because DAP is indeed the offspring of Master LKY’s PAP and i am not going into that for now.
Tony should remember one thing. Dont simply rock the unity and stability just because of his different political ideology. Find another way to fish the votes. Not on this religious and races thing
Maybe DAP has not has anymore to offer to fish the votes?
Should boat back to Singapore lah. and ask Master Lee. he can show you how they’ve done that with the malays there.
“It just shows you do not understand what being racist is about. You think you have spoken somethign is fair but is actually racist. Just shows your lack of sensitivity to the other races!”
You lost me, PJU can you please elaborate.
And while you are at it please also put your thoughts to the following:
“So what you are saying is that unity should be of utmost priority. I agree. But then why are those things happening in Tony Pua’s flyer. Why! why! why!.
Malaysian, the sword cuts both ways.
If you condemn Tony Pua’s flyer than by your admission,
should also condemn the acts highlighed therein, Hisamuddin infamous “kris” act and the delegates thunderous applause supporting it etc etc. Did I hear you say any of those things?”
uhhuhuuhuh…minority biasanye more racist..standard le…
kalau apek2 sekalian duk bising pasal ketuanan melayu la..malaysian malaysia la….ape kata buang dulu sekolah2 jenis apek2 cina tu dulu…dah nak malaysian malaysia sgt…pick a language…pick a theme(malysian malaysia) la…ni chong cheng chong cheng taik ape ntah…last2 keluar jadi triad gak…rambut cam landak kaler2 cam burung merak..duk tepi lorong jual DVD9 je…bukannye hebat sangat pun bangsa keparat ni..huhuhuhuuh…setakat jual DVD9 tak laku tu pas tu jadi mafia kampung/lorong jadi pengutip hutang along..ape yg hebat sangat????uhuhhuhuh…bangsa ni bodoh sebenarnye….saje je mereka nak potray yg berjaya je…kalau berjaya sangat kenapa le seluruh dunia apek2 ni pergi mesti buat kerja taik je..
kerja2 taik cam bapak ayam,mafia kampung,jual barang ciplak,dvd9 cetak rompak…malah boleh panggil kaum cetak rompak je…everything is not original on this race(apek busuk)…mereka datang malaysia pun dah kira bukan original(bumi status)mauahhahahaah…
sedarle diri tu sendiri apek oiiiii….
Tony Pua represent something DAP has not able to shed. Read this by Malaysians Unplugged below:
DAP is still perceived as a Chinese-based party and it is still harping on communal (read Chinese) issues. It has not been able to re-invent itself to be amenable to Malay voters. The core of its base is too Chinese to be attractive to the majority of liberal Malays and Indians.
DAP is strong in rhetoric, both in and out of Parliament; it is smart in organising seminars and workshops on national issues, but weak in effective delivery that bring benefits to its constituency of voters from its rhetorics.
Its refusal in the past to compromise and to work with other Malay-based opposition parties make itself a party that can NEVER be in Government, let alone a party that CAN win government. By default, DAP is essentially a party that REFUSE to be part of Government. A party that prefers to be in the Opposition, one that is remarkably good at making the right loud noises in Parliament and in the streets.
DAP politicians are engaged in feel-good therapy by harping on faults and weaknesses of Govt in Parliament, knowing full well that UMNO/BN politicians are too arrogant and too self-assured to bother about the criticisms and condemnation made by DAP in Parliament or in the streets.
Lim Kit Siang is seen by many voters as being fatigued and tired. There is no more “oomph” left in him compared to his early days.
And DAP’s recent surge to bring in intellectuals and well-known personalities who appeal to a bigger spectrum of voters is yet to show any significant impact.
Tony is new and supposed to give a refreshing look for DAP. By following Lim Kit Siang’s footstep, he is already looking increasingly fatigue and tired.
Wet Blanket ada point yang bagus! Golongan yang memperjuangkan kumpulan “Artikel 11″ kes kesnya adalah peguam yang mengaku Muslim seperti Malik Imtiaz dan Haris Ibrahim.
Ada ka Haris mintak Hakim berugama Islam yang mendengar kes Ayah Pin mengecualikan diri mereka????
Peguam jenis apa melanyak keputusan Hakim diluor mahkamah!Ini dua peguam KURANG AJAR!!!!
Sean Ang,
Sejak bila mempertahankan Ayah Pin itu Islamic????
Baca posting yang dibuat dalam Berita MyKMU.net ini:
Posted on Friday, November 16 @ 15:53:21 MYT
Topic: RENCANA
Malik Imtiaz Sarwar merupakan peguam ‘hak asasi manusia’ yang diketengahkan oleh Teymoor Nabili dalam rancangan khas Al Jazeera “101 East”, yang disiarkan kali pertama pada 1030 malam waktu Malaysia (GMT +8) pada Khamis, 15 November 2007, sebagai sorotan kepada peristiwa Perarakan Bersih 10 November 2007.
Amat jelas bahawa agenda Al Jazeera merupakan mempunyai agenda tertentu dan professional seperti Malik Imtiaz diketengahkan untuk memberikan kredibiliti kepada pergerakan BERSIH, walaupun jelas orang seperti Anwar Ibrahim, seorang banduan pesalah-guna kuasa (abuse of power convict) merupakan dalang yang membawa kepada ‘penyatuan’ Pembangkang dan memerpekudakan mereka yang mengambil kesempatan penuh dalam program kunun kunun ‘mereka yang mahukan kebebasan sivil (civil liberty)’ atas agenda peribadi Anwar.
Malik adalah seorang yang mengunakan bahasa dan penyampaian yang baik dan bersopan dan para pendengar akan mudah terkeliru dengan apa yang cuba diketengahkan beliau. Beliau merupakan pejuang ‘kebebasan sivil (civil liberty)’ dalam konteks hak individu dan dalam pelbagai ruang dan tahap perbincangan dan forum.
Menyokong Malik Imtiaz dan pendapat beliau bermakna:
1. Sokong Lina Joy untuk murtad dan dibenarkan secara rasmi menukar agama, termasuk memformalkan proses dokumentasi and rekod rasmi seorang ‘Melayu’, yang jelas bertentangan dan bercanggah dengan definisi Perlembagaan Malaysia.
2. Menyokong Majlis Peguam (Bar Council) yang mempunyai agenda puak puak Bukan Islam yang anti Melayu dan anti Islam memperlekeh-lekehkan Islam dengan mengunakan proses perundangan dan mendokumentasikan kejayaan mereka ini dalam rekod pengamal perundangan Malaysia, untuk selamanya. Malik, bersama Haris Ibrahim merupakan peguam yang mewakili Majlis Peguam sebagai ‘watching brief’ dalam kes Lina Joy yang dibawa ke Mahkamah Persekutuan Mei lepas.
Malik juga antara ahli Majlis Peguam yang begitu aktif berkempen untuk perarakan “Walk for Justice” anjuran Majlis Peguam di Putrajaya pada 26 September 2007 dan agar perkhidmatan Ketua Hakim Negara YAA Tun Ahmad Fairuz Sheikh Abdul Halim tidak disambung selepas persaraan wajib 1 November 2007. Malik juga mengkritik hebat penghakiman Tun Ahmad Fairuz dalam Mahkamah Persekutuan mengenai kes Lina Joy, yang jelas memihak kepada Islam.
3. Menyokong usaha orang orang pengamal undang undang angkuh (arrogant) seperti Malik Imtiaz, yang pernah membuat kenyataan terbuka seperti “The Syariah High Court is an INFERIOR COURT” dan “The Malaysian Constitution is the Supreme Law”, tetapi apabila Hakim Hakim Mahkamah Persekutuan dan Rayuan membuat keputusan dan memberi tafsiran Perlembagaan Malaysia bertentangan dengan agenda dan pendapat mereka, maka dengan begitu mudah dan bersahaja menyifatkan Hakim-Hakim ini disifatkan sebagai “bodoh dan tidak layak”.
Rakan rapat Malik Imtiaz dalam ‘Perang Salib’ ke atas isu ‘pengIslaman’ dan kecenderungan ke arah Islam oleh Hakim Hakim Mahkamah Persekutuan dan Rayuan , Haris Ibrahim pernah dengan angkuhnya memohon dalam Mahkamah, supaya Hakim Hakim yang mendengar kes rayuan salah seorang dari pengikut Ayah Pin agar mengecualikan diri dan tidak mendengari kes tersebut kerana mereka berugama Islam.
4. Membuat salah tafsiran Perlembagaan Malaysia iaitu Islam sebagai agama Persekutuan Malaysia (Artikel 3 (1). Menurut Malik dan Haris “Islam ialah ‘agama rasmi’ Persekutuan Malaysia”. Mereka juga menentang Artikel 121 (1A), yang telah dipinda Parlimen Malaysia masa zaman Tun Dr. Mahathir Mohamad sebagai Perdana Menteri.
5. Dalam Perlembagaan Malaysia, HANYA satu kaum sahaja yang disebut iaitu ‘Melayu’. Namun begitu, peguam peguam angkuh (arrogant) seperti Malik dan Haris enggan menerima hakikat ini bahawa kaum kaum keturunan lain dari Melayu tidak diberikan pengiktirafan sama seperti Melayu.
6. Malik Imtiaz dengan nada angkuhnya pernah memperlekeh-lekehkan usaha ‘pengIslaman’ perlbagai sistem diMalaysia, termasuk perdagangan dengan pengunakan system Bank Islam, Insuran Islam, Instrumen dan produk produk pasaran modal Islam dan sebagainya, dihadapan Public Accounts Committee diParlimen Malaysia.
Berhati hatilah apabila melemparkan sokongan kepada orang seperti Malik Imtiaz Sarwar. Beliau dengan angkuh pernah mengatakan walaupun beliau diberikan pendidikan perundangan di UIAM (yang berteraskan prinsip undang undang Islam), namun begitu beliau merasa undang undang Islam merupakan lemah dan tidak memberikan kebebasan ‘civil liberty’ kepada hak hak individu. Malik Imtiaz juga merupakan anak didik United World College diSingapura yang sebenarnya gagal mendapat tempat untuk belajar perundangan di United Kingdom dan sebaliknya terpaksa menerima ([i]reluctant[/i]) peluang belajar di UIAM.
Menyokong ‘kebebasan bersuara’ ala Malik Imtiaz bermakna bebas membuat kenyataan terbuka mengenai anti Islam dan anti Melayu, sebagaimana yang disenaraikan 1-5 diatas.
Orang seperti Malik ini pandai mengolah bahasa dan memainkan makna berganda perkataan dan vokabulari Bahasa Inggeris beliau sungguh tinggi dan mendalam. Maknanya, beliau akan membelitkan perkataan yang sebnarnya menghina isu seperti Islam dan Melayu dan masih boleh ‘terlepas’ kerana hujah hujah yang mampu diketengahkan kerana kelemahan ‘makna berganda perkataan perkataan tertentu yang dipilih khas’ itu.
‘Kebebasan menyuarakan pendapat’ adalah sesuatu yang amat merbahaya jika orang licik dan beragenda tertentu seperti Malik Imtiaz dibenarkan mengunakan sewenang wenangnya. Perkataan dan ayat yang digunakan memang tidak akan memberi kesan kepada orang orang kita, yang nyatanya rata rata lemah berbahasa Inggeris tetapi mempunyai implikasi amat buruk dikaca mata dunia. terutama media yang dikawal Barat dan Yahudi.
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PJU is right!
Sejak bila pengganas kommunis adalah pejuang kemerdekaan???? Mereka PENGGANAS la!
Berapa ramai orang menderita, sengsara, kilang dan rumah terbakor dan terbunuh kerana kommunis????
Kommunis serang Balai Polis Bukit Kepong semasa Tahun Baru Cina 1951, itu perjuangan kemerdekaan apa haram jadah tu???? 18 orang terkorban, termasuk kanak dan wanita!!!! Ini KEGANASAN!!!! BINATANG NAMANYA!!!!
Dah la pengganas kommunis ini bermula dengan Loi Tek, seorang barua British. Tak kan barua British pergi lawan British pulak???? Mana masuk akal!
Orang Islam sama sekali TIDAK BOLEH MENERIMA perjuangan kommunis, sebab kommunism menolak konsep Tuhan!
Kampung kampung baru Cina, dipinggir bandor bandor diujudkan, seperti Petaling Jaya, Bakri, Karak dsbnya, kerana proses menghalang bekalan kepada penganas kommunis dan mengelakan kaum Cina ditekan dan ancam.
Mana mungkin perjuangan segelintir kecil orang bersifat ganas, buas dan tidak berperikemanusiaan dianggap “perjuangan kemerdekaan”, sedangkan sebilangan besor warga Malaya terseksa, menderita dan tertekan kerana keganasan kommunis! Perjuangan kemerdekaan ialah apabila orang macam Tunku Abdul Rahman Putra & Co berjaya dapatkan mandat 98% rakyat Malaya dan merundingkan kemerdekaan, dengan aman, sebagai lelaki budiman dan mengunakan akal, bijaksana dan adab sopan.
Sean Ang
TIDAK KAH ANIH UNTUK KAMU NAK MENGAJAR ORANG ISLAM BAGAIMANA UNTUK MENGAMALKAN ISLAM, MENGAJAR KAMI MANA SATU ISLAM DAN MANA SATU BUKAN ISLAM DAN CUBA MENERANGKAN AL QURAN.
Saya tidak ada masaalah untuk orang Islam mengetahui sedikit sebanyak mengenai Islam, malah saya menggalakkan. Seperti yang kamu sebut, kamu hanya “mempunyai sedikit pengetahuan dalam Islam”. Kamu tidak mempercayai Islam, tentu sekali kamu tidak mengamalkan Islam dan jauh sekali untuk menghayati Islam, Iman dan Ihsan.
Sebagai orang bukan Islam, malah kafir, apa yang kamu faham sebagai syirik untuk menuduh Panglima Salleh mengamalkan amalan syirik? Dimana kamu dengar Kiai Salleh belajar dari harimau jadian? Pernahkah kamu berjumpa Tuan Hj Salleh? Belajar dengannya? Adakah dalam dunia benda alah yang dipanggil harimau jadian? Melucukan …
Islam guna ISA ke atas mazhab Islam yang lain? Baiklah saya betulkan yang guna adalah Dolah Bodowi yang berkuasa menggunakan ISA. Mengenai perkara ini saya tidak tahu menahu? Kes mana dan dimana nak dapat tulisan Aziz Bari ini. Oleh kerana awak nampaknya sudah baca, tahanan ISA itu ditahan kerana ugama atau keselamatan dalam negara? Syiah ada kecondongan militan. Adakah itu sebabnya, bukan pasal agama?
Anih sebagai seorang penyokong dua fasiq bernama Harris Ibrahim dan Malik Imtiaz, kamu menggunakan tulisan Aziz Bari, seteru utama mereka.
Isu yang kamu nak persoalkan adalah isu undang2. Saya tanya betulkah orang Islam tidak boleh menukar agama? Tidak ada langsungkah cara2 dan prosedur untuk menukar agama? Kalau tidak ada, tidak adil.
Kalau ada, ini bermaknanya awak mahu tidak payah pakai prosedur. Ia juga bermakna kamu mahu campur tangan dlm hal ehwal perjalanan dan pentadbiran Islam.
Adakah orang islam masuk campur dalam hal ehwal ugama lain? Tidak ada.
Yang jelas sekarang adalah orang bukan Islam yg kurang ajar mahu masuk campaur dalam urusan dan pentdbiran agama Islam, termasuk Tony Pua.
Jika yang demikian, awak mahu menganjurkan satu cara yang tidak perlu dokumen, deklarasi dan prosedur. Kalau ikut cara kamu, ianya akan menimbulkan kucar kacir dan kesusahan.
Bukankah byk kes2 yang berlaku adalah kerana masaalah mengenepikan dokumen dan prosedur? Dokumen menentukan seseorang dari satu agama ke agama lain. Jadi tidak timbul dispute. Salahnya bukan agama Islam tetapi penganut yang degil tidak mahu mengikut prosedur. Itu padan muka masing2!
Dari pandangan kamu mengenai dan sokongan kepada Tony Pua, kamu dah merepek untuk masuk cerita Islam Hadhari dan PAS yang saya tak faham apa yg kamu mahu unjurkan. Itu cerita politik.
Penentang Islamisasi yang kuat adalah Malik Imtiaz. Dia mempersoalkan orang perempuan pakai tudung. Itu hak orang perempuan untuk pakai tudung bukan hak Malik Imtiaz dan bukan sesiapa. Itu hak individu. Kalau di Turki, perempuan tak ada hak untuk memakai tudung. Itu yang kamu suka? Kata pejuang hak asasi menghormati hak individu?
Malik Imtiaz persoalkan Bank Islam dan macam2 lagi yang dia persoalkan. Ini semua bukan untuk orang bukan Islam. Ini adalah institusi Islam untuk orang islam mempertingkatkan keislaman merkeka. Tidak ada kena mengena dengan orang bukan Islam.
Menggunakan peruntukkan kerajaan untuk membina institusi Islam sudah ada dalam Perlembagaan dari dahulu lagi. Mana salahnya?
Cakap kepada Haris dan Malik Imtiaz bahawa Tunku Abdul Rahman dan Hussein Onn salah. Ini bukan negara sekular kerana ada peruntukkan untuk Islam. Islam bukan agama rasmi tetapi agama persekutuan dan tidak berasing dgn state.
Biasa lah half past six lawyer yang putar belit fakta bukan berhujah berdasarkan fakta. Dalam hal perlembagaan, mereka pun tak faham Artikel 11 yang mereka perjuangkan!!!
Sebenarnya agak memuntahkan untuk saya menyebut nama dua orang fasiq yang kamu pertahankan sebagai mengamalkan Islam yg sebenar.
Saya tak payah tanya perkara2 yang kamu mungkin sekali tidak boleh faham. Islam terang mengharamkan arak. Macam mana kamu kata mereka memperjuangkan Islam sebagaimana dalam Quran, jika mereka melakukan sesuatu yang dilarang!!!!???
Haram jadah dua ekor ini mempertahankan Ayah Pin dan pengikutnya sebagai pelanggan guaman untuk mereka cari makan. Tak ada mengherankan dan kelebihan disitu. Byk peguam mempertahankan penjenayah
Cuba tanya orang Islam yang benar2 mengamalkan ajaran Islam dan tidak melakukan yg dilarang. Dalam 100, berapa akan berkata ayah pin tidak sesat dari ajaran dan akidah Islam?
Saya tidak ada masaalah untuk orang Islam mengetahui sedikit sebanyak mengenai Islam, malah saya menggalakkan.
PEMBETULAN
Saya tidak ada masaalah untuk orang bukan Islam mengetahui sedikit sebanyak mengenai Islam, malah saya menggalakkan.
“Malaysian, I suggest YOU READ UP ON REAL HISTORY. I never said I’m a communist. The communists fought off the Japanese. It’s a HISTORICAL FACT. Tks.”
typical cina kebun…
why mention small part of so-called historical facts…why do you silent on the facts that PKM killed a lot of innocent people ????
hidup Azli…..keep up the good work….
Blogger said: Why turn defensive and go on hit and point fingers at others? I didn’t say you steal money.
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I’m glad you brought it up because the allegation was spread to certain bloggers. And I wanted to clear the air that it is a COMPLETE LIE.
Since I was 15, I’ve worked in various positions (part time/ full time) that requires me to handle CASH. No complains so far till dealing with Soon Li Tsin and Nathaniel Tan.
They even started an anonymous blog to accuse me. It was quite cheap.
So I just want to clear the air.
I did not attend because I was uncomfortable about Soo Chee Wen being a sponsor. I found out last minute.
If you want to make more accusations, please MAKE A POLICE REPORT. I’ve handed everything over. I can even print out the statement for you.
You allege: “Many found their name missing on the paid list.” That’s not possible. Unless they didn’t pay. It was a complete list. I’m not surprised the other organisers printed the wrong list.
I don’t have to say anything to YOU. You are an ANONYMOUS commentator, with ZERO credibility.
But thank you for giving me the opportunity for the truth to come out.
Tepat sekali Cicit Kiai Salleh!
Ini semua nak tunjuk HERO dan bagi tafsiran sempit mengenai Islam melalui bacaan yang asal dari golongan Orientalis dan pergi dengor peguam KURANG AJAR macam Malik dan Haris!
Duk Perati,
Memang setuju dengan Tuan.
Yang mula mula sekali menentang Jepun ialah Rejimen Askar Melayu, bawah pimpinan Lt. Adnan Saidin dan Lt. Abbas, yang bertahan di Bukit Chandu, Singapura sehingga kehabisan peluru, pada 14 Feb 1942, sehari sebelum Lt. Gen. A. E. Percival menyerah kalah kepada Lt. Gen. Yamashita, di kilang Ford, Bukit Timah.
Kemudian perjuangan ini diteruskan oleh Rejiman Wataniah, bawah pimpinan Major Yeop Mahidin Mohamed Shariff dan dibantu Capt. Abdul Razak Hussein, Capt. Hussein Onn dan Lt. Mohamed Ghazalli Shafiee. Seorang lagi pejuang menentang Jepun ialah Major Ibrahim Ismail (kini Jen. (B) Tun Ibrahim Ismail).
Kenapa Cina Cina pro-DAP sini HANYA bangkitkan seolah seolah Kommunis sahaja yang melawan Jepun????
Jelas menunjukan mereka yang pro-DAP ini sebenarnya JIWA KOMMUNIS!!!!
Ini semua usaha orang yang beriya iya putar belitkan sejarah. Capt. Razak Hussein dan Capt. Hussein Onn terus memperjuangkan Kemerdekaan setelah Jepun menyerah kalah dan perjuangan mereka melalui UMNO. Ianya ternyata berhasil, walapupun Perjuangan mereka memerdekakan Malaya adalah HANYA dengan mendapat mandat dari rakyat Malaya melalui demokrasi dan terus dibawa untuk rundingan, perbincangan dan kebijaksanaan, BUKAN SENJATA dan KEGANASAN!!!!
Ini cara orang madani! Ini cara orang bertamaddun!
KOMMUNIS IALAH BINATANG BUAS!!!!
DAP adalah KOMMUNIS!!!!
Aku ulang sekali lagi……………..
DAP = PENGGANAS KOMMUNIS!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jed Yoong,
Aku perhati bagaimana kau pertahankan apa yang Tony Pua buat dan apa yang Blogger tulis. Aku juga teringat cerita sekitar blog, apabila nama kau pernah dibabitkan.
Kalau Aku terpaksa memilih antara percaya cerita kau ni atau apa yang Soon Li Tsin dan Nathaniel Tan bagi tau, Aku memilih mereka berdua. Ini sebab mereka dua orang, kau seorang. Lagi pulak, kau ni jenis DAP yang boleh mengatakan Kommunis pejuang kemerdekaan!
Ini JELAS MENUNJUKAN kau ni DAP yang tergamak putar belit sejarah, untuk kepentingan sempit kau semata mata!!!!
Cakap kau tiada kredibiliti la!
IMO, What Malaysians are trully lacking now is mutual understanding..This might be the reason why we are now hearing about the word “Islam-ilization” which i’m seriously don’t know where does this word came from nor have heard of it before..
Well, by rational thinking, Yes, for being Malaysians, DAP,Chinese or Indians have their right to express their concerned if such thing really happen and nobody can deny their rights..But judging from the fact or what we’ve read so far, most of the cases the real circumstances are actually not as that bad as being reported..They are some issues which could be considered as insignificant matter but unfortunately had been exaggerated to create unnecessary attention..
For example,the recent issues which was involving a non-muslim student who was a school prefect(tak ingat nama sekolahnya) had been told to wear songkok to respect a certain ceremony and also another similar cases where a non-muslim parent complained that their son who was about to be a school prefect(sekolah rendah) had been forced to wear “seluar panjang” if want to continue to be a prefect..IMO,these issue was prompted because of misunderstanding..Firstly,Songkok has nothing to do with Islam,it’s just related to malay culture and secondly,Muslims can wear seluar pendek also as long as it covered until the knee.Even though i’m quite understand the feelings of the non-muslim parent,but claiming that there is some kind of Islamilization element bacause of this is a bit nonsense.In fact,i even believe that some of the malays parent also couldn’t agree with the school policy too simply because if non-malay students don’t want to wear songkok,seluar panjang or anything they thought related to Melayu,let them be laa,why should the school force them..
And speaking of discrimination,i don’t quite agreed if any people said that such policy does exist in this country.There is a big difference between discrimination policy and the policy to help bumiputera.Discrimination means blocking particular groups of people right for the sake of other party.If this things really happened,then somebody should explain to me why most of the the richest men in our country are non-bumi.And plzz,don’t give that naive answer that all the non-bumi richest man in Malaysia are kawan-kawan UMNO while on the other hand keep accusing that UMNO only fight for the Malays..
The thing is that, some of the non-bumis just don’t realise that the goverment actually have reduced some policy that favouring the bumis from time to time.And being a multi-racial country,it’s quite normal also if there are few dispute on certain issues especially pertaining the religion,but most importantly is how to solve it in proper manner and through the rite channels.Unfortunately,we can see that some of the opposition party currently are more interested to manipulate those issues for their own sake,not for the people sake..
Tony P said… (in Sagaladoola)
I’d only like to make the following comments. Readers can make their judgements.
1. I find it a little funny how did the UMNO PJ guys et al. conclude that the flyer was only distribute to non-Muslim houses? They got their hands on a copy didn’t they?
2. DAP and my views on the issue discussed is available widely on the party’s website and my blog – for public viewing by ALL Malaysians irrespective of race or religion. In fact, I’ve written plenty on freedom of religion recently.
Hence, to accuse me of attempting to “divide and rule” i.e., tell one story to one community and tell another to others, as BN does is complete nonsense.
I have every respect for Islam as a religion. I have written extensively that toleration and respect for each other has to be a two-way process, and not one imposed on another. Only then, could we achieve a real “muhibbah” nation that goes beyond rhetoric.
Please keep the discussion going. I won’t be commenting further here. I’ll update my blog if I get called up by the police soon
Tony
Friday, February 08, 2008 11:44:00 PM
Hoi Tony Pua,
Rumah budak budak UMNO PJ Utara sekitar Damansara Utama tak dapat pun risalah itu. Tapi ada seorang yang tinggal di SS 21/1 (rumah itu masih didaftar bawah nama pemilik asalnya, iaitu Cina) ada menerima risalah tersebut (Sebab puak puak DAP ini ingat penghuni rumah itu keturunan Cina)!
Bukankah membicarakan kes kes seperti Revathi dan Subashini, yang masih dalam proses perbicaraan, dianggap MENGIHNA MAHKAMAH????
Kalau risalah itu benar untuk semua ugama kepercayaan dan keturunan, kenapa ianya dicetak dalam bahasa INGGERIS dan MANDARIN SAHAJA????
Kau ingat, Melayu PJ Utara ni bodoh ka????
Kalau betul kau ni bertoleransi mengenai ugama, terutama Islam, kenapa kau tak langsung ketengahkan walaupun majoriti penduduk PJ Utara bukan Islam, namun Kerajaan memerintah memberikan kebebasan untuk ugama. Sebagai contoh, Damansara Utama (kawasan pejabat perkhidmatan kau tu!) ada sekurang kurangnya 5/6 gereja TETAPI HANYA ADA 1 MASJID SAHAJA!
Sekitar Bandar Utama ada 2 sekolah Cina dan 1 di SS2 TETAPI HANYA ADA 1 SEKOLAH UGAMA SAHAJA????
Bukankah itu toleransi namanya???? Kenapa kau tak ketengah point ini????
Lagi satu, cara pendekatan kau untuk ungkit kes kes Lina Joy, Revathi dan Subashini dalam risalah itu bukan rhetorik ka????
Kau ni memang typical KOMMUNIS DAP! CAKAP TAK SERUPA BIKIN!!!!
This is my quite long a reply to Tony Pua and Sagadoola:
Huh … Tony trying to play innocence.
1. He gave a flyer to a home that in the old voters list is a non Muslim home. The house was sold to a Muslim and the previous owner has yet to change their voting area.
This is a peaceful friendly neighbour and neighbours shared common concern. When checked around the neighbourhood, it was conclusively found that registered Muslim homes are intentionally skipped.
Since you are trying to do a nahi nahi, emulate the Bollywood actress. It is more sultry than your smile; a smile without the crinch at the eyes – a sign of insincerity and lie.
Lair lair pants on fire. You can try to pretend it is funny and laugh all you like Tony. I know how it works and you did it, you crummy liar!
2. Judging from the last GE, Ronnie Liew did miserably in PJU. DAP desperately need a sensational issue to draw the attention of the majority non Malay voters within the shortest of time. The most convenient and oftenly practised DAP way is to stir racial issue.
Hope you do not play ignorance to say DAP never done it and will not do it. No need to pull a cheap diversion by saying BN this and BN that. Fuck BN or Pak Lah for all I care. I’m talking about you and with you.
3. The fact that Tony phrase his opening para as “… silent creeping Islamisation …” is a precisely well intended target on Islam. So, it is not Islamisation but a silent creeping one. That is a play of word and a convenient exit clause for denial.
How could he say I have every respect for Islam as a religion when he uses Islam as his bogey and intend to instill doubt and suspicion over a non existence so-called policy of Islamisation on the non Muslims?
Precisely Tony, which so-called “islamisation” policy that has denied non Muslim from practising their religion guaranteed under article 11?
Do not give me the list that has been spreading on the Internet. It is a shallow and not thought through accusation.
There is no policy of force conversion of Islam on non Muslim. There is no policy that deny non Muslims from practising their religion in the manner quoted in Article 11 of the Constitution as “in peace and harmony”. So Tony what do you actually mean?
4. Generally the cheap trick of Tony is to make accusation based on issues that is administrative nature. Not only are illegal temples are plough down but illegal surau, shops, and homes too. Generally all involved are on illegally occupied land and due notice have been provided.
There may have been isolated possible cases of poor handling of the sensitivity. However, that is a local government matter. It is not part of any Islamisation policy that Tony Pua is irresponsibly trying to play up as responsible for destroying houses of worship. If it is Islamisation, shouldn’t it preserve the surau or little Masjid also? What do you have to say, Tony?
5. Another cheap accusation made is to point to dispute of legalistic nature which can only be dealt in the courts and whose judge’s decision is the finality. The authority to interpret the law and decide on disputes falls only on judges. It is not within the realm of political party (BN included), NGO (Bar Council included), Parliament, and even the King to interpret and decide!
Discussing court cases in proceeding tantamount to attempting to influence the court and is an offense of the contempt of court.
The fact of life Tony everything other thing in life has procedure, documents and legality involvement. Much of the disputes in court are of that nature. What are you seeking then? Do as you like lawlessness and anarchy.
Although it is sad to see some cases involves family and children, the law is the law. It is beyond Tony to do anything should he be elected MP. Neither could Tony stop spouses from changing religion, having dispute with the spouse and taking it to the court. He is making an issue that has no relevance to him as mere politician.
6. That is the problem with the law and it’s insensitive nature. All of us want a law that is not merely law for law sake. There must be morality, humanity, and sensitivity. That is the problem of the precedent-based English Common Law.
This brings the point of Tony’s wild generalisation on former CJ, Sheikh Fairuz’s suggestion for a Malaysian common law as Islamisation.
Is Tony aware that the Constitution and Law in this counrty has its roots in previous laws? This stretch back to the Syariah law tradition of the Melaka Empire. Read the book “Introduction to Malaysian Legal History”.
If he is so fearful and allergic to Islam, how could he claim as defender of the Malaysian Constitution that provide for the role and function of Islam? If the cares to notice, the Constitution makes no mention of any religion other than Islam.
See, 2007 is not the first time Sheikh Fairuz spoke of it. He spoke of it earlier in circa 2004. It was written by IKIM and published in the Star. Where was Tony then? Trying to con investors into his defunk e-Village deal in Singapore? Where was Tony’s voice then? DAP too? Why only making such commotion now?
Read back the actual speeches by Sheikh Fairuz. He is trying to address the problem of English Common Law that is not in sync with the Eastern and Oriental value and culture. He specifically mention of incorporating the universal values found in all religion and culture practised in Malaysia.
He did mention of using Islam. That is a natural choice as one of the religion and values for reference. Islam is quite advanced in area of jurispudence. Why should it not be referred to? Furthermore, isn’t Islam the religion of the Federation and is part of the historical evolution of the Malaysian Constitution? Rest asure it is intended not for a standalone of only Islamic input.
7. This expose the prejudicial habit of generalising anything and everything Islam as Islamisation by the anglophilic western-centric Bar Council and the likes of Tony and DAP.
Tony’s attempt to make simplistic generalisation on Islamisation and claimed secular status of the Constitution exposed his ignorance on the subject. More dangerous is that he is using it to fuel interfaith and interracial prejudice and sentiment among the simple unsuspecting folk in PJU. This is a DAP’s hsitorical tradition of communal politics that has not shed it’s skin.
8. Now I challenge Tony to reply and answer all the criticisms levelled at him in the 13 million guy ramble blog where his wrongdoing was first exposed. Don’t take the wimpy way of running way to refuse comment. Otherwise, he will be permanently known as irresponsible, coward and undemocratic (great Singapore tradition).
Quite a few of his constituency is in that blog. If he wants to be the representative to all in PJU Utara, irrespective of race as he claims, he should be bold enough to clarify and defend himself. He must finish what he started.
If he can speak at dialogue and forums, he can surely face the constituents of PJU. Answer or you will have to answer in PJ Utara during the GE!
I’d only like to make the following comments. Readers can make their judgements.
1. I find it a little funny how did the UMNO PJ guys et al. conclude that the flyer was only distribute to non-Muslim houses? They got their hands on a copy didn’t they?
Distribute to non-muslim houses and how they got their hands on a copy are two different things. I also find it a little funny you conclude it that way too….
2. DAP and my views on the issue discussed is available widely on the party’s website and my blog – for public viewing by ALL Malaysians irrespective of race or religion. In fact, I’ve written plenty on freedom of religion recently.
Hence, to accuse me of attempting to “divide and rule” i.e., tell one story to one community and tell another to others, as BN does is complete nonsense.
Again what you write on internet and what you distribute from house to house are two different things altogether. Not everybody reads your article on the internet, but distributing it to non-muslim houses, in a way or the other, will surely affect what they think of their muslim neighbors etc….
I have every respect for Islam as a religion. I have written extensively that toleration and respect for each other has to be a two-way process, and not one imposed on another. Only then, could we achieve a real “muhibbah” nation that goes beyond rhetoric.
We also have respect for Buddha, Hindu, Christian etc as religions. We tolerate not only religion, but to other aspects as well – culture, education etc…ie if a malay community in china, Taiwan, etc wants to build sekolah aliran melayu in china, Taiwan do you think the respective government will approve It ?
Please don’t even think that the malays have no tolerance and respect to the Chinese, India etc…we are more than tolerance….
Anak Watan Malaya,
Ini adalah ayat kamu sendiri:
“Ini cara orang madani! Ini cara orang bertamaddun!
KOMMUNIS IALAH BINATANG BUAS!!!!
DAP adalah KOMMUNIS!!!!”
yang mana Sahih Bukhari, mengatakan mempunyai unsur unsur Munafiq.
Tidak-kah kamu sedari bahawa Malaysia mempunyai hubungan diplomatik yang istimewa dengan negara Komunis seperti China dan Cuba.
Pada tahun 70-an, Komunis China telah membantu Pakistan dalam teknologi nuklear termasuk pembinaan 2 reaktor nuklear di Chasma, Wilayah Punjab. Sehingga kini, Hu Jintao telah menjanjikan kerjasama nuklear untuk memperkasakan pertahanan sebuah negara Islam, Pakistan. Malah, saya tidak keberatan untuk mengatakan bahawa sekiranya Iran diserang oleh Barat, Komunis China akan memberi bantuan segera.
Oleh itu, KOMUNIS ITU BUKAN MUSUH ISLAM. Siapa musuh Islam?
Al-Quran mengatakan bahawa MUSUH UTAMA orang Islam ialah Munafiq. Lihat Ayat Qur’an 63:1, Qur’an 4:145.
Malah, Al Quran mengatakan Munafiq itu lebih berbahaya daripada musuh musuh Islam yang lain, termasuk Amerika Syarikat dan Yahudi.
Saudara Cicit Kiai Salleh,
Kamu melemparkan tuduhan bahawa, “Syiah ada kecondongan militan.”
Semasa kemangkatan Muhammad, terdapat rancangan jahat sahabat Muhamad (seperti Abu Bakar, Omar dan lain lain) untuk merampas kuasa. Ali yang pada masa itu sibuk dengan upacara kemangkatan tidakpun dijemput untuk sidang tersebut. Mengapakah ini berlaku? Ini kerana “dalang” tersebut berpendapat bahawa sekira-nya Ali dijemput, kemungkinan besar Ali akan dilantik sebagai pengganti. Siapakah pembunuh Bibi Fatima? Yazid, Hussain?
Siapakah Militant di Iraq? Bukankah Saddam Hussein, seorang Sunni?
Siapa pembunuh Benazir Bhutto?
OLEH SAHABAT ISLAM
Seanang
Begitu panjang lebar saya tulis, itu saja yang kamu boleh cari salah. Perkara yang awak timbulkan pun tidak ada kait mengait dgn isu yg sedang dibincangkan dan sudah jauh menyimpang dari isu asal.
Mana dia kenyataan kamu mengiktiraf peguam half past six Harris Ibrahim dan Malik Imtiaz pengamal larangan tuhan sebagai pembela Islam dan Perlembagaan yang sebenar? Melucukan …
Usaha awak untuk nit pick ayat itu nampak sangat usaha desperado yang bertujuan mencari kesalahan. Ianya hanyalah satu leretan persoalan yang awak takut nak jawab.
Biar saya buat pembetulan atau tambahan penjelasan supaya mudah kamu berhenti dari merepek dan dapat menjawab persoalan yang saya timbulkan:
Syiah dikatakan ada kecondongan militan. Adakah itu sebabnya, bukan pasal agama?
Sekarang jawab apa asas orang yang kamu sebut ditahan ISA? Sebab syiah atau keselamatan? Siapa pula nama orangnya?
Kalau tak tahu, cakap tak tahu bahalol! Jangan nak merepek meraban mengubah tajuk macam khinzir minum todi!
Nampak jelas kamu mempunyai niat untuk memperkenalkan isu-isu sektarian dan perkara untuk menimbulkan kekeliruan dan keraguan.
Kamu tak lain tak bukan bersifat seperti seorang orientalis yang mempelajari Islam dengan tujuan untuk memusuhi Islam.
Dal hal ini, kamu cuba memutar belit fakta sejarah Islam dan menimbulkan perjudis sesama dan terhadap orang Islam.
Saya telah selidiki nic awak di google dan dapati bahawa anda adalah sebahagian dari kumpulan yang menggelarkan diri mereka Citizen Think Tank, yang nmpak mempunyai pertalian dgn si fasiq Harris Ibrahim.
Disebalik lakunan kamu sebagai kumpulan rakyat yang kononnya bertanggungjawab, prihatin dan berfikir, sebenarnya awak perosak yang mahu mencampuri hal ehwal ugama lain dan menjadi duri dalam daging kepada keharmonian antara kaum dan agama rakyat.
Kamu sepatutnya bertanggungjawab kononnya sebagai politician watchdog memastikan mereka seperti Tony Pua tidak menyalah gunakan kempen politiknya.
Namun awak tidak mempertahankan Tony lagi dan menentang pendirian saya, maka saya ambil kira awak setuju dengan pendirian saya. Dah setuju tu baguslah kerana awak pun sama dgn Tony Puah.
PENENTANG KAFIR HARBI
SAHABAT KAFIR ZIMMI
Reading thru the 52 odd comments thus far I find something soooo lah DAP… “THEY TWIST FACTS AND POINTS SO MUCH THAT FINALLY THE COMMENTS MADE ARE TOTALLY OUT OF TOPIC!”
What started as a protest against the narrowminded view and malicious propoganda to entice the local non-malays to bear ill feelings towards their malay neighbours, has turned into a tussle with regards to the Islamic religion, its teachers and leaders, Kiyai Salleh and whatever else.
The point being is simple, Tony Pua by distributing these malicious and seditious lies is tring to shake the very foundations of racial unity in the country.
The flyers sent, which as I was informed, was enclosed in an envelope addressed to non-muslim houses (in this case with a Chinese owner’s name to the home address) and hand delivered into their respective mailboxes.
It seems that these flyers were only distributed to non-muslim/non-malay homes which is the very essence of Sedition.
The way I look at it, Tony Pua and DAP which includes his doggy Jed Yoong should be put behind bars or better still ISA for seditious acts.
What right do you communist bastards have, to migrate over from your hometown somewhere ‘ulu’ for all I care to distrupt the peace and harmony the people of PJU enjoy thus far.
You bastard communists should really pack your bags and bugger off to Singapore or somewhere else where your DAP and PAP ideals are welcomed.
Oh… just so you remember, 13 May wasn’t started by Malays. It was started by your communist bastards of DAP when they toured into Kg Baru on a lorry insulting the malay folks there. It was DAP who brought about 13 May and then ’sembunyi tangan’. Oh well, what else to expect from the lots of bastardly communists like you buggers!
Oh… Jed Yoong, you are really an obedient dog to Tony Pua, aren’t you? Answering on his behalf and defending your masters. You put reporting to shame, calling yourself a freelance reporter! You are nothing but exactly like those from Tngkat 4!
And let me say this again, PJU DOES NOT WELCOME COMMUNIST BASTARDS… MUCH MORE THOSE FROM THE ‘ULU’ COUNTIES OF BATU PAHAT OR SOME OTHER KAMPUNG MEDDLING INTO THE IDEAS OF CITY AREAS SUCH AS DAMANSARA UTAMA OR PJ UTARA!
hehehehe, jed and aiyo.. do some research 1st ek before saying anything.. u keep on repeating the same thing over and over again.. kelakar la korang nih eheheh keep it up ek coz its quite entertaining hehehe
Look here, and here. Seanang is a scientist dealing with prehistoric excavation. He is on the trail of the johore bigfoot.
One can only imagine the mind of someone whose work deals with making sense out of the bones of berok, orang utan dan prehistoric creatures. He must deal with a lot wild and crazy things.
No wonder he imagine lots of crazy notion of Islam. He is unused to dealing with civilisation and proper order of society. Hanya tahu memahami dunia berok dan dan orang utan yang penuh dgn berkelahi dan bergaduh.
Citizen Think Tank layak di panggil Chimpanzee Think Tank.
Entertaining or not, you still don’t have the guts to answer hehehe.
Wow “PJU Resident” hopefully you have a blog. Your reasoning skills are not bad, but they are flawed as we’ll in my opinion. Nobody can be 100% fully unbiased & neutral. Your biasness however is strongly apparent in the way & what you have written.
I’m not going to go into a long ramble & waste your time or mine. I will say this though & not to defend Tony, its just my opinion.
Tony does not need to answer you! I think the letter speaks for itself & people are smart enough to interpret its meaning & on who they will vote for.
In Malaysia, people are commonly categorised into Muslims & Non-Muslims, nothing wrong with that. Muslims have their issues & buttons, & so do the non-Muslims.
For many moderate & urban non-Muslims (& even some Muslims), some issues that they perceive as true, because it affects their personal security are:
- Inflation & a Worsening Economy
- Increasing Crime & Corruption
- Religous Freedom, Tolerance & Secularism
- Islamisation & how it affects the non-muslims
There are a few more minor ones, but these are the biggies & are all supported by things that have & are happening, stories & pure facts.
Looking at those issues, these are things that are happening all over the world. But in this country the non-Muslims feel more threatened because of comparatively higher corruption, UMNO’s dominance, 50 over percent of the population are Muslims & Government positions are all dominated by Muslims!
Now, Tony only speaks for us moderate non-Muslims & what we feel, based on history & facts. So, if you Muslims want to make things better, practice what you preach… for action speaks louder then words ever will!
Re: May 13 wikipedia has it that “Gerakan party issued an apology” prior to the riot.
Can anybody please enlighten me, what the fcuk did Gerakan apologized for? I understand that Gerakan is/was a Chinese based party, and Chinese claimed that they were the victims in May 13.
I ask again, what was the content of Gerakan’s apology?
It’s easy to accuse dead people, Harun and Razak. If Tun Dr. Mahathir already gone, I’m sure that his name would have also appeared in DAP’s historians’ accounts as another person who triggered May 13.
Fcuking bastards are trying to wash their hands. And failed miserably. Malays won the elections many times, and we did not carry gigantic brooms on the streets.
We need closure for this episode, but the Chinese oppositions never had the balls or conscience to admit their orang utan behaviours on 10, 11 and 12 May 1969.
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Hmm… look at you guys here go at each other, race & parties. This is exactly what they (big brother) wants. It looks like BN’s Divide & Conquer tactics are still working! (some of them are probably commenting here as we’ll)
You are “all guilty” & deserved to be blamed!
lol.
thanks bigdog for alerting me about this post.
just to quickly clarify – i have never written a surat layang about alleged stolen funds and neither did i make some anonymous website about jedyoong. if yoong thinks she has been defamed, please proceed with a defamation suit rather than engage in the activity herself.
’soon li tsin of malaysiakini’ has spoken. lol.
meanwhile, please carry on discussing about tony pua, dap and communists. sorry for this off-topic comment.
warm regards to all!
aiyo, its that all u can throw to me? heheh.. the more u say, the more i know abt u and trust me, its not that i dont have the guts, u will just keep on saying the same thing which makes me think that u dont know much do u? . hehehe.. bring it on bro, bring it on.
Sean Ang,
Malaysia bersahabat dengan negara kommunis seperti Cuba dan China, sebab mereka negara lain dan atas dasar percaturan politik antarabangsa dan diplomasi. Kommunis Cuba dan China tidak secara langsung melakukan kekejaman, merosakan harta benda dan mengorbankan nyawa rakyat Malaysia!
Malaysia menentang kommunis dalam negeri kerana pengganas pengganas ini melakukan kekejaman, memporak perandakan masyarakat, membiarkan sebilangan besor rakyat sentiasa dalam ketakutan, menjahanamkan harta benda dan merugikan perusahaan dan yang penting sekali, MENGORBANKAN NYAWA RAKYAT MALAYSIA, YANG TIDAK BERDOSA!!!!!
Kerana apa???? Kerana tamak MAHUKAN KUASA SEMATA MATA, BERTINDAL BUAS MELALUI KEGANASAN!!!!
MANA SAMA!!!!
Seingatan akulah, kau ni pernah cuba menipu rakyat Malaysia dengan cerita cerita ‘dongeng’ kau mengenai Johor Hominid @ “Bigfoot”. Mana buktinya?????
Kenapa website kau alih alih ja ‘hilang’?????
Tak payahlah kau cuba nak berdebat dengan melemparkan fakta fakta yang kau sengaja pilih untuk putarbelitkan dan perkara perkara yang sebenarnya kau tidak faham, seperti Islam, sedangkan bidang yang kau kaji sendiri, gagal buktikan keujudannya! Kau ni jenis manusia suka cari publisiti murahan ka????
Padanlah datang sini untuk dengan degilnya pertahankan DAP = KOMMUNIS!!!!
Heran ekkk….. yang mati mati pertahankan Tony Pua ‘wannabe’ ni dan DAP KOMMUNIS ni orang kaki menipu dan kaki kencing, macam Sean Ang dan Jed Yoong!
Tony Pua pun sendiri kaki kencing! Tengok bagaimana beliau tinggalkan Cyber Village dalam kerugian!
Kelakornya!!!!
Hahhahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahhaa
Tsk Tsk Jed Yoong,
It seems that you are not only a communist bastard, but also a dog to Tony Pua and also a liar!
How is it that you could even conjure an impression that you DAP rejects could even fit into the PJU scene.
“Fetch doggy, fetch!”
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I see lots…
Thanks and no thanks. Do I need to have a blog to say my piece?
Sick with bloody DAP’s hipocrasy of accusing others and going around acting high and mighty, but yet are very much indulge in communal politics.
Now you have a perception of my view, fine. Then you make a conclusion that my position is bias without rebutting my points and explaining your stand.
That is cheap shot labelling!
Subsequently you said Tony does not need to answer to me! Now, if the letter is questionable, why would Tony be absolved from answering? Tony has to explain himself and take responsibility for he has put his signature on to the flyer. More so, when it involves communal intended stand, without answering his critics.
If Tony does not wish to answer, than he should not offer himself as a peoples’ representative. As a citizen, I feel very strongly against the idea of a leader/representative being indifferent to the views of it’s rakyat/constituency. Be it Pak Lah or some Ministers or MP/ADUN, ruling or opposition.
As it is I am very disappointed with Pak Lah and his regime, but it does not mean that Tony and DAP can do whatever they please.
Next is with regard with your assertion of the four major concern of the public.
In the latest Merdeka Centre survey where Pak lah’s popularity dropped by 10% to 60% on Jeff Ooi (DAP), the major concerns are inflation & rising prices (20%), ethnic & inequality (post hindraf 17%), crime & public safety (12%), social problem (9%), and demonstration (7%). FYI, Merdeka Centre Survey is widely used by opposition politicians to substantiate their claims.
The major concern of the people remain the same except for the new category of ethnic and inequality. I believed it combined the percentages for issues related to affirmative action, inter-racial, Islamisation and maybe interfaith issue. These categories are no more present now.
The percentage of grouses on matters religion in the earlier survey is immaterially small. This means the population in general have never found it to be any issue of concern.
If Hindraf had any impact, it is not expecetd to have any significance. It is only confined to Hindu Indian and generally represent less than 9% of population. Many activist are against Hindraf’s etnic centric demands. Does ethnic measn also religion?
Islamisation and interfaith concern only affect lawyers, civil activist and it’s followers, and never attracted the attention of even the middle and higher class.
So … I see lots… mentioning of Islamisation and inter-faith issues as 3rd and 4th important concerns is purely guesswork and unsubstantiated.
This reinforce my assertion that DAP is bankrupt of issue for the fairly affluent area of PJU and had to resort to inter-faith issues to incite the population.
Surind
I share your view. If I had fall for the “Divide and Rule” trick of “Big Brother”, then the invisible “Big Brother” should be the one who started this … Tony Pua and DAP!
Jed Jed …
The person you accused have denied. She did not even bad mouth you. Hmmm … now you look bad.
Actually whose dog are you – Tony Puah’s or Wong Chun Wai’s?
Tony … is the devil with the nice smile. No future in racially biased opposition. Will get more bitter with everything and end up migrate.
Wong … is the devil with the opportunity. End up selling soul to Khairy. Better life and no need to be away from family.
Remembered you said bloggers are backstabbing liar. Bloggers said someone is unrealiable, dishonest and backstabber.
I only said misrepresentation.
Wah,
rupa2 “Anak Watan Malaya” dari http://www.beritakmu.net/…. kumpulan penyokong UMNO…patutlah rajin mengutuk DAP.
It’s very clear from the handbill published here, with something that look like DAP’s logo and someone who look like Tony Pua, chose to highlight rare and isolated defiant and deviant religious cases, instead of issues that matters most to the voters/residents, such as escalating cost of living, toll charges and crime rates.
Obviously some diabolical ulterior motive for something that look like DAP and someone who look like Tony Pua to thread on this ultra sensitive racial and precarious interfaith issues.
Is that the extend of Oxford PPE grad someone who resembles Tony Pua are able to do and fight for?
If so, then the DAP is doomed! Then Chinese majority voters of the more affluent urbanlandia and surburbia dwellers should organise themselves to a more progressive political party to fight for our grievances on issues like increasing cost of living, crime rates and better public services and facilities.
68 comments long, and yet no Tony Pua in sight!
Y*, C*mm*n*st B*ST*RD Jed Yoong, wh*r* th* F*CK *s y**r c*w*rdly m*st*r?
Wanna buy a vowel?
tomatoinc ,
Tony Pua is from DAP and also his symphathizer here is more to against Islam and Malay …
But same as my post before .. guite funny for this Tony to label and blame Islamisation .
Saudara Cicit Kiai Salleh,
“Perkara yang awak timbulkan pun tidak ada kait mengait dgn isu yg sedang dibincangkan dan sudah jauh menyimpang dari isu asal.”
Mengenai Isu Komunis
Isu yang ingin saya sampaikan ialah tiada permusuhan antara Islam dengan Komunis. Malahan terdapat golongan Islam yang telahpun menerima Sosialisme dengan baik.
Sila lawati laman web ini:
http://www.socialistinternational.org/maps/english/asia.htm
Pakistan People’s Party yang diwakili oleh Benazir Bhutto, adalah contoh Islam yang menerima baik pendekatan sosialisme. Malaysia diwakili oleh DAP.
Antara lain-nya, Muammar al-Qaddafi sendiri memperkenalkan “Islamic Socialism.” – dalam ertikata sebenar ideologi yang meminjam idea Karl Marx.
Samsiah Fakeh sehingga hari ini pun masih seorang Islam dan seorang Komunis Sejati! Kata kata Shamsiah Fakeh – “saya tidak pernah menyesal menyertai Parti Komunis”.
Perang Malayan Pertama, dan Perang Malayan Kedua telah disalahfahamkan sebagai pertempuran antara Melayu-Cina, ankara propaganda British. Kita harus melupakan “cebisan luka lama”, seperti pertempuran Mahmuddiah-Komunis di Batu Pahat – yang mungkin merupakan pencetus kebencian kamu ke atas Komunis. Pembunuhan beramai ramai Sook Ching oleh Jepun ke atas orang Cina adalah kejam, tetapi saya tidak-pun mengungkit kisah dulu untuk membenci Jepun generasi sekarang.
Hari ini, kerajaan menyekat pendaftaran Parti Sosialis Malaysia, yang mana diterajui oleh Dr. Nasir.
Mengenai Isu “De-Islamization”
Berdasarkan laporan penyelidikan yang ada pada saya, untuk kriteria ahli politik, pentingnya pengetahuan agama hanya 5%. Keupayaan peribadi adalah 34%. Sokongan untuk Hudud adalah 22% di Selangor, manakala di Kelantan ialah 90%.
Yakni, semakin maju sesebuah negeri semakin kurang sokongan ke atas Fundamentalism, lebih lebih lagi di kalangan orang Melayu. Ini adalah fakta.
Kumpulan Article 11 adalah mereka yang progresif. Antara lain termasuk Sister in Islam yang mewakili Muslimin yang maju kehadapan. Fakta – memang terdapat ketakutan bukan Islam akan Fundamentalism. Hanya tokoh-tokoh seperti Raja Petra, Malik Imtiaz, Harris Ibrahim, Marina Mahathir dan lain lain, memberi harapan baru.
Semasa saya berada di Beijing, saya mempunyai ramai pelajar Islam. Amalan Islam di Beijing adalah sederhana. Dan saya juga mempunyai ramai sahabat Islam dari Pakistan yang sederhana. Tidak pun mereka rasa gusar masuk restoran Cina.
Saya adalah penyokong Islam yang Progresif. Isu yang ditimbulkan oleh Tony Pua ada kebenaran-nya, dan harus diambil kira oleh pembuat dasar UMNO secara serius.
Walaupun saya tidak membalas semua yang kamu tulis, saya sedang cuba memahami pemikiran kamu dan hujah hujah kamu.
Sedih saya ada komen yang kelihatan “kasar” di blog ini. Harap harap bukan penyokong UMNO. Ini saya serah kepada Big Dog untuk moderate.
PENYOKONG ISLAM PROGRESIF
Banyak rakyat yang bukan Islam di negara ini takut kemarahan orang muslim, bukan maksud pun itu merdeka survey pada jeff.ooi acurate kerana pasti ada orang yang tak mahu jawab terus terang. Saya orang China dan saya pun thingal di pj. memang, ekonomi untuk kita adalah faktor no.1, tetapi memang ada antara kita yang tidak begitu campur gaul dengan orang melayu selepas sekolah dan takut apa sedang jadi dengan islam di negara ini.
bukan kerana melayu, tetapi kerana islam dahulu masa saya di sekolah saya rasa lain dari islam sekarang di malaysia. sekarang memang kita nampak perbesaan. perempuan dulu tak banyak pakai tudung, sekarang banyak pakai. dahulu tak begitu kacau orang islam untuk ikut dengan keras kepercayaan dia, sekarang banyak. ada kawan melayu saya pun yang rasa ini dan takut itu polis syariah dan badan-badan lain & juga orang sama kaum dia. dahulu mana ada itu curi badan orang mati banyak, sekarang ada banyak. kita banyak baca pada surat khabar china, semua cerita ada, banyak orang sedih dan marah. ada orang melayu pandai cakap pun yang melayu di malaysia sudah lupa dia punya budaya, sekarang mahu ikut itu budaya arab, itu budaya yang bagus dari zaman melaka sudah lupa, saya tak cakap tentang agama di sini. kawan melayu saya hantar saya ini website dan saya baca tengok banyak yang kita china sama dengan orang islam:
http://www.islam4women.org/
ada orang yang kata, orang yang lupa atau tak ikut dia punya budaya akan sesat dan buat benda yang tak bagus. u tengok kita orang china & indian, melainkan orang christian, kita tak lupa budaya kita. pasti ada yang tak bagus, tetapi kita masih tahu mana yang cantik dan bagus dan cuba ikut. kita tak begitu tengok agama & tuhan, ada yang tak sambayang pun, tetapi tahu moral & mana yang betul & salah melalui budaya sahaja. saya pernah ke china pun, itu orang china islam pun tak lupa dia punya budaya china dan tahu campurkan dia dengan semua keajaran islam.
itu sahaja saya mahu cakap. saya rasa ada kebetulan tony cakap itu, tetapi cara dia tulis itu tak begitu sesuai untuk malaysia. tony itu orang baik, saya pernah cakap dengan dia. mungkin tak begitu faham orang melayu, mungkin kerana kurang orang melayu dalam dap. mereka rasa dap itu parti china, tetapi banyak orang india dan melayu kawan saya pun support dap di sini, kerana tak suka mca & ada yang cakap tak mahu support umno sekarang. meraka suka pkr & pas pun. tetapi ada yang tak percaya anwar seratus peratus.
we don’t need any adjectives for the noun “Islam”
Komunis pejuang kemerdekaan???
Memang DAP bangsat….yg kudung tangan..yang kudung kaki..buta mata..anak membesar sebagai yatim….tu semua keje komunis..nak di gebangkan sebagai pejuang kemerdekaan???
Dari jenis Melayu bangsat ajer yg menjunjung roket x berinjin…orang2 yg “dalam pengetahuan agamanya” sajer yg boleh terima pengkhianat macam nie….siap peluk2 mesra lagi..Hadi Bongok ngan kit siang bangang…gambo bersepah dlm google…x payah nak nafi…
Saudara seanang,
kalau saudara buka minda dan baca kutukan dan hinaan dalam gerbang maya PAS dan DAP mungkin perkara macam nie x payah nak sembang lagi. Tapi kalau dah melampau2 bodohnya sampaikan Komunis pun dipuja-puja disanjung….senang laa pada yg mak bapaknya membacul diri masa darurat dulu kat belakang gobok dapur, mungkin senang nak kurniakan kemaafan…tapi pada yg atuk dan bapaknya bergadai nyawa x mungkin lupa…mati hidup balik bawak dendam….
DAP panik bila tengok semakin ramai anak-anak Melayu berpendidikan tinggi dan berjaya dalam perniagaan. Org Melayu semakin mara dan maju dlm dalam semua aspek hidup itu yg menakutkan DAP.
Tengok cukup perumahan2 mewah kat KL, Selangor dipenuhi pembeli2 melayu. Kat Templer Park banglo-banglo mewah yang berharga antara RM2juta-RM5juta jugak dipenuhi pembeli melayu.Begitu jugak perumahan2 di Cheras, PJ, Kepong yang dulunya kawasan Cina sekarang dipenuhi pembeli-pembeli Melayu. Siti Nurhaliza rumahnya pun di Cheras.Apa nasib cina 20 tahun akan datang?? Orang Cina semakin minoriti di KL dan Selangor Melayu semakin majoriti sebab ramai Melayu yang berhijrah dari luar bandar bekerja dan menetap di KL selepas tamat belajar.
Market barangan org cina ialah melayu tapi kalau melayu boleh sendiri semua boleh hasilkan product sendiri boleh berniaga among the malay apa nak jadi dgn cina??camner dia org nak cari makan??nak tipu melayu dah tak der peluang??bisness cina akan di take-over oleh orang melayu dan cina susah nak cari makan.
Yang lebih menakutkan DAP ialah org Cina skrg tak peduli lagi politik hanya ingat nak cari makan dan kaya jer.Belia-belia Cina skrg pondan dan rosak akhlak tak der ideologi komunis macam Cina 13Mei dulu jadi camner nak lawan Melayu??
Fikirkanlah baik2 wahai kaum Cina. Korang dah takder masa depan di sini. Orang Melayu semakin maju dalam bidang perniagaan dan pasti akan mengalahkan korang. Tak guna melawan Melayu sebab korang dah takder masa depan di sini. Masa depan Malaysia di tangan Melayu bukan di tangan Cina. Orang Melayulah yang akan menentukan hidup dan mati Cina di sini.
Sdra Kakikuda,
Saya amat kagum dengan semangat Melayu saudara, tetapi suka saya peringatkan bahawa Islam juga menyeru kepada toleransi dan kesederhanaan.
Isu pokok di sini bukanlah isu Cina vs Melayu ataupun sengketa antara agama. Tetapi ia adalah isu ‘respect’ yang mana Tony Pua, anjing-anjingnya serta ideologi DAP tidak faham-faham.
Jangan kerana ‘nila setitik rosak susu sebelanga’ atau ‘kerana nyamuk seekor, kelambu kita bakar’ kerana rata-rata bangsa bukan melayu kebanyakkannya tidak ada masalah hidup dalam Tanah Melayu ini. Cuma segelintir bangsat-bangsat komunis yang kebanyakkannya pemimpin dan ahli DAP ni yang cuba memecahbelahkan perpaduan di antara kaum di dalam negara bertuah ini.
Maka, mesej kita mesti sama, iaitu Tolak Sosialisma DAP, Tolak sekularisma komunisma, Tolak propoganda sesat DAP, Tolak fikiran sempit Jed Yoong, Tolak pembohongan dan Wayang Mamat Bigfoot palsu dan Tolak DAP sama sekali, baik calon-calon berangan PJU, Karpal dan anaknya, juga semua pengkhianat yang bersekongkol dengan DAP!
Hoi Sean Ang,
Islam memang progressif!
Satu masa dulu, masyarakat Islam diBaghdad, Kaherah dan Andalussia merupakan masyarakat paling bertamaddun, maju, mengamalkan applikasi sains dan teknologi dan paling komprehensif, berbanding dengan masyarakat lain, seperti Barat (Rom) dan Perancis, China dan India.
Islam yang dipraktikan semenjak zaman Khalifah khalifah Abbasiah, Othmaniah dan Andalussia ini adalah Islam yang SAMA SEPERTI AHLUL SUNNAH WAL JAMAAH dipraktikan hari ini!
Tiada beza!
Al Quran yang sama (tiada sedikit pun modifikasi semenjak dicompile zaman Khalifah Usman Al Affan), sebagai Kitabullah pedoman, perawi Hadith dsbnya!
Kau apa tau? Kau agnostik! Kau jenis KAKI KENCING & KAKI PENIPU (kes Johor Hominid @ Bigfoot)!!!!
Orang seperti Malik Imtiaz dan Haris Ibrahim adalah PEGUAM KURANG AJAR yang dengan BANGGA MENGHINA ISLAM dengan mengunakan tafsiran sempit mereka, memutarbelitkan Perlembagaan!
Ini bukan contoh orang Islam yang baik! Malah mereka ini MUSUH ISLAM!!!!
Peguam peguam ternama seperti Zainur Zakaria, Pawanchik Merican, Zulkifli Nordin dsbnya MENENTANG KERAS PEGUAM GOLONGAN PRO-MURTAD dan PRO-AJARAN SESAT INI!!!!
Raja Petra pula ‘mencari mencari’ identiti (setelah ayahnada-bonda) meninggalkan beliau diMalaysia dan menetap di England dan mendapat ‘hidayah’ mengenai Islam dari buku buku Orientalis yang ditulis oleh Barat + pengaruh syiah seeprti Hadi Awang (yang tergamnak kafirkan sesama Islam – Amanat Hadi Awang, 1981)!!!!
Islam yang orang orang Melayu amalkan, Ahli Sunnah Wal Jammah, Mazhab Shafiee, ialah Islam yang mengamalkan asas asas (fundamental).
Siapa agnostik macam kau ni nak buat tafsiran dan penilaian mengenai Islam????
Kau pilih peguam PEGUAM GILA seperti Malik dan Haris sebagai ‘cahaya’ Islam yang kau harapkan sebab kau ni manusia jenis suka tengok Islam yang mabuk sesuka hati, hina sesiapa mereka suka (dalam Mahkamah dan Parlimen!) dan mempertahankan orang orang yang jelas SESAT seperti Ayah Pin dan MURTAD macam Lina Joy!!!!!
Nauzubillah min zaliq…………………………
Memang kau ni KAKI KENCING @ KAKI PUTAR BELIT FAKTA!!!!!
PADANLAH SOKONG DAP = KOMMUNIS!!!!
Sabar bang! Sabar…….orang Islam mesti bersabar dan patahkan hujah dengan bijaksana
Seanang
Saya rasa awak ni antara bingung atau kaki putar? Apabila hebat dikritik, mula ‘baling batu sorok tangan”. Jangan lupa awak masuk perbincangan dengan nada yang kasar!
Masuk-masuk, kenyataan awak adalah tuduhan keras mengenai “the rise of fundamentalism, and Islamization” dan menyalahkan kumpulan ini dan itu. Sudahlah tu, awak mempersoalkan kesahihan Islam pulak dengan mengatakan Muhammad mengikut-ikut ugama Kristian kerana pakciknya Warqah bin Nafal itu Kristian.
Sedarkah awak berapa sensitifnya kenyataan ini? Orang Islam percaya Muhammad mendapat wahyu terus dari tuhan. Warqah menyedari beberapa alamat dan memperakui sifat kenabian Muhammad dan bukan “anointed by Warqah” seperti yang dikatakan oleh Raja Petra. SEDARLAH! HANYA KAMU YANG BERLAKU BIADAP MEMPERSOALKAN KESAHIHAN AGAMA SAYA DI SINI. Yang jelas sekali, begitu lazim sekali orang bukan Islam mempersoalkan cara orang Islam mengamalkan agamanya.
Kemudian awak hendak mengajar kamI ayat “Iqra ha fiddeen…” dalam Surah Al Baqarah.
Tahukah maknanya yang lebih tepat dalam bahasa Arab? Apa tafsirannya yang tidak bercanggah dengan ayat-ayat Al Quran yang lain? Apa pula tafsiran yang diberi oleh Nabi Muhammad di dalam Hadith-Hadith Sahih? Pergi tanya cikgu kamu si kaki mabuk dan fasiq, Harris Ibrahim dan Malik Imtiaz!
Seterusnya awak membuat pelbagai komen mengenai kategori-kategori Islam; moderat, liberal, progresif, fundamental, wahhabism dan political Islam.
Ini hanya menunjukkan kejahilan, pemikiran orientalis dan penyerlahan niat permusuhan anda. Cara mengkategori adalah pemikiran dan taktik barat untuk memecahbelahkan umat kami. Islam adalah Ad Deen, bukan kategori-kategori superficial itu.
Saya dapat lihat dari awal lagi. Itu yang saya mula menyebutkan bahawa anda mempunyai perjudis agama.
Orang seperti awak, Tony Pua, Jed Yoong dll boleh diprofil sebagai tidak ada pemahaman dan tidak mahu faham. Kamu mempelajari Islam untuk diguna bagi berdebat dan memutarbelit, bukan untuk meningkatkan semangat faham memahami.
Selamanya kamu tidak akan menerima agama, cara dan kebudayaan kami. Padahal ini tanah air kami berkurun2 lamanya. Mereka hanya pendatang yang tidak tahu berterima kasih, kurang adab, dan jauh sekali tahu hormat menghormati! Ini adalah sikap dan ciri2 cina pesisiran pantai yang menjadi cina luar negera.
Mungkin kamu bisa berbahasa Melayu, tetapi kebanyakkan mereka yang berprofil sedemikian tidak bercampur gaul dengan orang Melayu/Islam, dan tidak menguasai bahasa kebangsaan. Mereka sering mengambil sikap yang enggan memperakui sejarah, tradisi kebudayaan dan legasi Melayu dan Islam di negara ini. Malah ada yang tergamak mengatakan orang Melayu dan Islam bukan berasal usul di sini. Antaranya adalah Lee Kuan Yew. Sikap dan perjudis yang sama begitu menusuk di dalam DAP.
Padahal kebudayaan dan agama bukan Melayu dan Islam tidak pernah di sekat! Orang bukan Melayu dan Islam sudah bermastautin di sini sekian lama.
Mereka berhujah mengenai toleransi tetapi masaalah-masaalah dibesar-besarkan seolah-olah ugama dan kebudayaan mereka digugat. Padahal ianya masaalah pentadbiran, birokrasi dan interpretasi perundangan.
Pada saya, perkara yang paling biadap dan kasar sekali kamu lakukan adalah mempersoalkan aqidah dan keimanan moyang saya, Kiyai Salleh dan menuduhnya mengamalkan ilmu harimau jadian.
Adakah patut Panglima yang membersihkan Johor dari anasir pengganas dituduh sedemikian. Bukankah Komunis bermaharajalela dengan sewenang2 mengugut, membunuh, dan merompak rakyat jelata tidak kira bangsa dan agama?
Kamu mempertahankan komunis seolah-olah saudara mara kamu adalah pengganas komunis yang terbunuh! Adakah kamu kasihankan komunis kerana persamaan bangsa? Tidak fikirkah kamu bahawa orang Cina seperti kawan-kawan moyang saya seperti Ah Chong, dan Ah Lek pun menjadi mangsa kekejaman komunis?
Saya tak ambik peduli berkenaan amalan sosialisma dan komunis di luar negara. Komunis dalam Malaysia, Melayu atau bukan Melayu, adalah pengganas dan bukan pejuang kemerdekaan! Selepas kita merdeka, mengapa mereka terus memusuhi kerajaan yang dipilih? Segala peristiwa pergaduhan kaum sepanjang tahun2 40-60an didalangi komunis dan LKY! Jangan lupa Parti Buruh yg dibelakangnya Komunis yang terlibat dalam tunjuk perasaan Mei 1969!
Dari situ, kamu terus melencung dengan melemparkan pelbagai tuduhan jahat mengenai Islam dengan cebisan kenyataan politik Islam tanpa analisa jelas. Kamu mahu mengajar orang Islam mengenai Islam supaya mengikut cara Indonesia dan Turki.
Saya sedar sekali betapa buruk masaalah keruntuhan moral dan berleluasa sekali amalan maksiat di Indonesia dan Turki. Adakah itu model Islam yang kamu sokong?
Kamu tidak henti-henti mahu menonjolkan mereka seperti Harris Ibrahim, Malik Imtiaz, Sister in Islam, dan lain sebagai Islam yang tulin dan progresif.
Cuba buka mata kamu. Mereka hanya mendapat perakuan dari kumpulan kecil orang2 bukan Islam dan segelintir orang2 Islam pinggiran! Tidak sampai 1/2% orang Islam Malaysia menerima cara pemikiran dan amalan mereka! Apa pula definasi progresif mengenai mereka?
Awak cuba mengungkit cebit mengenai perselisihan sekterian sunni-syiah yang tidak ada kena mengena dengan risalah Tony Pua.
Orang syiah saya anggap Islam juga dan pernah berniaga dengan mereka. Mungkin ada kumpulan politikal yang mengamalkan cara2 tarkiyah orang syiah. Isu disini bukan kerana syiahnya tetapi keselamatan dalam negeri. Malah lebih ramai orang Islam aliran Sunnah Wal Jamaah yang ditahan ISA. Tidak releven.
Komen terbaru kamu ni tidak ada releven untuk dijawab sekarang. Hanya nak beritahu kamu. Jika kamu memulakan kekasaran, jangan jadi budak kemei-mei merengek2 cari emak bila dikasari kembali!
Because of this expose, Jed Yoong made her blog here exclusive. I am sure you Malay have a saying, “Berani kerana benar, takut kerana salah.”
Jed projects herself as liberal and humanist, but actually she is a hipocrit with a deep prejudice in her heart. She wrote an article that was put up by Malaysia Today titled Why I oppose Sharia Law. Managed to find the article and reproduce an excerpt for all Malaysians – Muslim and non Muslim.
1. To Muslims who say that Islam is not an ideology but the “Truth” (that’s with a capital “T” by the way) and the Sharia is “perfect” and “knows no boundaries”, I register my opposition to Islam.
I will never support Islam. Islamic Law is barbaric, medieval, discriminatory and violates international human rights laws. It’s also deceitful allowing the practice of taqqiyah.
2. I will not apologise for my anti-Islam stance. I want to make it clear that this does not mean I am anti-”Malay”.
Islam is a global disease that must be stopped before it consumes the world with medieval, barbaric rule. Chopping off people’s hands is uncivilized. Threatening someone with violence (chopping off their hands, stoning, etc) will only beget violence. Those who live by the sword will die by the sword. An Islamic society even one with Islamic Hadhari is not a place for me.
3. I hope Muslims will see Islam for what it is — an evil ideology bent on destroying the world with its savage values. It is incompatible with democracy and modernity. To embrace Islam is regression. Our country has enough problems competing as it is, we don’t need Islam to add to our woes.
We must stop the proliferation of this ideology called Islam. Those who are forced to be Muslims should demand that they be given the right to leave this ideology. Step into the modern world and break free from the choking shackles of religiosity and feudalism. Islam is used to control Malaysians. It is used to gain power. No human being is qualified to tell you how you should live your life. Salvation lies in your hands. Redeem yourselves today.
Notice her stance. She is not anti-Islamisation, or institutional Islam or whatever. She is just plain anti-Islam and specifically demeans Islam.
As a Christian, which seanang claims as “about winning the hearts and not compulsion”, she does not reflect the true spirit of Chrstianity.
She used to write for DAP’s Rocket. What does that make of DAP?
This is what Singapore education and Singapore is producing for Malaysia – Tony Pua and Jed Yoong. Racist to the core!
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Tony’s the MAN! Anyone disagrees, talk to my hand…
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Buat bangsa Melayu yang amat ku cintai….
Kita masih ada al-quran dan sunnah..insya Allah tiada musnah melayu(islam) di tanah nenek moyang kita ini..Amin..Ya Rabbal Alamin…..
Tony Puah tells the truth and nothing but the truth.
Everybody knows non-muslim won’t react in an emotional manner. So why need a police report to investigate his flyer?
PJU UMNO fella want to challenge Tony Pua to a debate on National TV if he got the ballz?
aREn’t islam have a quote that say u must love every one and accept each other? and please, if u were to vote for BN, do think twice. How many more years do u want woman to be a quiet, and their voice not being heard? Please! Bn jerk tarnished the woman! i have mother, u have ones as well. Y must we let all this happen? I am darn fed up wit the MP and all BN people who dun have moral value! please give them a chance!
jarod, apa kau merepek nih syaitan? rafidah aziz tuh bukan pompuan ke? ke kau tu buta? u fed up with BN? BN pun fed up nak layan orang bodoh cam kau heheheh.. i dun think u have moral values as well.. why should we give ppl like u a chance.
Who the hell wants to kacau the Muslims? What we want is for the Muslims to leave us alone and stop imposing their heavy handed dogma on the non-Muslim community.
Stop demolishing temples in such an arrogant manner destroying statues and throwing rocks at people, stop spreading rumors of conversions of Muslims at church nearly start a riot with bricks and firecrackers thrown at the church, stop calling for the destruction of crosses at missionary schools, stop rampas the insurance money of a Muslim son left to his non-Muslim mother, stop ban books that depict Christian prophets, stop rampas bibles at airports, stop rampas Indonesian produced Christian books, stop asking non-Muslim soldiers to convert to Islam in order to get promotion..on and on.
Cheh, reading the comments above by Muslim hard-liners make me want to puke. You tak suka pengganas komunis di Malaysia? Sudah berakhir lah perang, oi! Suruh lah abang-adik Melayu kamu di Selatan Filipina dan Selatan Thailand jangan menjadi pengganas bunuh orang tanpa belas kasihan..ini nak cakap pasal cerita grandfather story komunis..cheh!
Another thing, we (being Chinese/Indians) did not invade lu punya Tanah Melayu lar..itu dulu British bawa kita masuk untuk jadi pekerja di estet getah dan lombong bijih timah lar..alamak fail ke sejarah SPM kamu? Apasal kamu tidak pi kerja kat estet dan lombong dulu? Kalau Melayu kerja kat situ, tak payah la British nak bawa tenaga buruh..sekarang pun sama..dalam bidang estet, pembalakan, construction etc. Kena bawa pekerja asing..