SPB YDP Agong denied support for illegal rally

HM SPB YDP Agong Tuanku Sultan Mizan Zainal Abidin Ibni Almarhum Sultan Mahmud denied claims that he supported or condoned the “Nov 11 march”, which was deemed illegal assembly in the eyes of the law as it did not get a Police permit, as provided under the Police Act. The Grand Chamberlain of Istana Negara issued an official statement on the matter.

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Bernama.com has the story:

November 16, 2007 14:12 PM

Tuanku Mizan Regrets Claims He Supports Illegal Rally E-mail this news to a friend Printable version of this news

 

 

KUALA LUMPUR, Nov 16 (Bernama) — Yang di- Pertuan Agong Tuanku Mizan Zainal Abidin has expressed regret over claims that he and the Palace approved and suppported Saturday’s illegal rally in the city.

In a statement issued here today by the Datuk Pengelola Bijaya Diraja of Istana Negara, Datuk Wan Mohd Safiain Wan Hasan, the King also regretted the gathering which was organised by the Coalition for Clean and Fair Elections (Bersih) and supported by the opposition parties.

Tuanku Mizan stressed that he and Istana Negara had at no time approved or given any support, directly or indirectly, to any quarters that organised or was involved in the illegal assembly or any other activities that contravened the law.

On Saturday, Bersih, which comprises several non-governmental organisations, as well as some opposition parties had gathered their supporters at various spots in the city, including around Masjid Jamek, Jalan Tuanku Abdul Rahman and the National Mosque, before marching to Istana Negara to hand over a memorandum to Tuanku Mizan.

The following Monday, PAS secretary-general Datuk Kamaruddin Jaffar said Bersih had decided to submit the memorandum to the Yang di-Pertuan Agong after the ruler himself approved of it, and that the presence of Bersih at Istana Negara was to hand over the memorandum to the King’s representative.

In the statement, Tuanku Mizan said as the head of state, he was responsible in ensuring that the country’s administration based on the constitutional monarchy system as enshrined in the Federal Constitution, was respected and adhered to by all.

He hoped that the people would act in accordance with the law and not be involved in any illegal action or activity.

“Every Malaysian citizen is responsible for maintaining public order for continued peace and stability in the country,” Tuanku Mizan said.

The King also hoped that the people would together work at preserving unity and harmony to ensure that the country would continue to develop, prosper and be respected.

Meanwhile, Wan Mohd Safiain said that Istana Negara, for the first time, summoned the media to publicise the content of the statement as the King viewed the matter seriously.

“Normally, Istana Negara would issue a statement via facsimile but this time, we had to call the media here to ensure that the King’s message reaches the people,” he added.

— BERNAMA

This basically sealed the fate of the BERSIH initiative to complain and drag the Monarchs, into politics. The Constitution of the Federation of Malaysia clearly stated that HM SPB YDP Agong and HRH Rulers have absolute power only on two issues; anything with regards to the Malay custom, culture and heritage and Islam. Everything else, HM SPB YDP Agong and HRH Rulers, will have to listen to the Executive, which is backed by the democratically elected Parliament and State Assemblies, inline with the Westminster style Constitutional Monarchy adopted and being practiced.

During the negotiations for independence in 1956, then Chief Minister and UMNO President, YTM Tunku Abdul Rahman Putra, who is also the Chairman of Alliance Party, which won the 1955 first General Elections near absolute mandate, managed to convince the Malay Rulers, through their representative for the independence mission, Dato’ Paglima Bukit Gantang Hj Abdul Wahab bin Toh Muda Abdul Aziz and Dato’ Nik Ahmad Kamil, for the Rulers to absolve their right into politics and day-to-day management of the country and instead adopt the Westminster style Constitutional Monarchy.

This is the AP report on the same subject matter which Bernama reported:

Malaysian king disapproves rally for electoral reforms in major blow to opposition

By EILEEN NG,Associated Press Writer AP – Saturday, November 17

KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia – Malaysia’s king expressed regret Friday over a recent opposition-backed rally for electoral reforms, dealing a blow to activists who had hoped that royal intervention would boost their cause.

In a rare media statement, Sultan Mizan Zainal Abidin also dismissed claims that he had approved and supported the Nov. 10 rally, the biggest political demonstration in the country in nearly a decade.

Organizers said 30,000 people took part in the demonstration, which was banned by the government. Police put the number at 4,000, and said nearly 250 people were briefly detained.

The king said he “truly regretted the illegal gathering.”

The constitutional monarch almost never comments on political developments in the country. The break in protocol appeared to be an attempt by the royal palace to send a signal to the government that he remains apolitical amid concerns he had tacitly encouraged opposition activists by allowing a palace official to accept their memorandum after the rally.

Mizan stressed that he and the National Palace “never at any time approved or gave any support, directly or indirectly, to any parties that organized or were involved in the illegal gathering or any other activities that violate the law.”

The demonstrators, prevented from gathering at a downtown park, had marched to the royal palace where they handed over the memorandum addressed to the king.

The king, who largely has a ceremonial role with no executive power, remains a highly revered figure in Malaysia, especially by the majority Malay Muslims. Many even feel _ possibly in misplaced faith _ that the monarch is influential enough to stop the state from following undemocratic practices.

Sivarasa Rasiah, one of the protest organizers, said the campaign for election reforms will go on, with general elections widely expected next year.

“We respect the king’s views but we continue to hope that the royalty will play a role to help advance the course of democracy and ensure elections are clean and fair,” he told The Associated Press.

The king urged the people to stay away from illegal gatherings, and to preserve unity and harmony. “Every Malaysian citizen is responsible for maintaining public order for continued peace and stability in the country,” he said in the statement.

The demonstrators were demanding the removal of phantom voters from electoral rolls, a crackdown on government workers using absentee ballots, access to state-controlled media by all political parties, and an end to vote-buying and other irregularities.

The government denies election irregularities, saying electoral rolls have been cleaned up and the polling system is transparent.

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In the statement, HM SPB YDP Agong urged Malaysians to respect the law and abide by it, to maintain harmony and stability. It seems that the Oppositions and BERSIH now have ran out of this avenue (using the Palace as a “branding excuse”, for more support) to continue further to pressure for reforms, despite SPR has announced that changes have already been made.

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At he November 10 march, the Opposition leaders took the primary position and ‘centre stage’ as the “assumed leaders”, ‘representing the rakyat’ during the rally, which many participants and active campaigners vehemently defended as a “march of civil society citizens”.

The outcome of this statement has suddenly quashed so much rumours circulating amongst the participants and supporters of BERSIH’s November 10 march that HM SPB YDP Agong instructed the Army “provide safe passage for the marchers”, especially when the Police moved onto the rowdy crowd in the Masjid Jame’s area. Irresponsible rumours like this, implicitly trying to ‘drag’ Monarchs into politics and pit the confidence and faith of the rakyat against the Police, coupled with an untrue millitary loyalty and objective, as per consented by the Palace.

This statement also is expected to have given the Police Force more confidence and ‘endorsement’ to take stern action against future illegal assemblies, marches and demonstration, which include Opposition staged ones but guised under NGO, as part of their responsibility to maintain public order and law.

*Updated as of Saturday, 17 November 2007

On another note, PAS made a statement refuting that they are the organiser of the November 10 March and the earlier report that the approval of HM SPB YDP Agong was never sought.

This is what has been reported by The Star:

PAS: Rally organisers did not seek King’s okay

KOTA BARU: PAS, which was involved in last Saturday’s illegal gathering in Kuala Lumpur, said the organisers of the rally had never sought the approval of Yang di-Pertuan Agong Tuanku Mizan Zainal Abidin.

Secretary-general Datuk Kamaruddin Jaafar said the party wanted to clear any misconception which may have emerged over the issue.

The MP for Tumpat also said the gathering was not organised by PAS but by Bersih.

“Bersih is responsible for the details of the gathering, the Opposition just supported it. The Opposition just handed over a memorandum,” he said when contacted.

Kamaruddin said he made a statement earlier this week following Prime Minister Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi’s remarks that the Opposition was dragging the royalty into the entire issue.

“I responded through our Harakahdaily that we were asked by palace officials earlier to provide a list of names for those who would be handing over the memorandum.

“At no time was the King’s consent sought or given,” he said.

 

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  1. Biggum,

    Read the report here by RPK which refutes everything you have written here. I have provided the link …

    http://www.malaysia-today.net/nuc2006/index.php?itemid=326&scbegin=71#c

    i am beginning to doubt your credibility. my apology should RPK be lying through his teeth. BTW, here too is your opportunity to refute what RPK has penned and call him a liar.

    chou

    At this point, there is no proof about the Royal Malay Regiment’s unit on stand by, especially with the ‘instructions’ or ‘perkenan’ HM SPB YDP Agong. Just because someone say it, does not mean its there.

    Making rumours about these sort of things are very serious. Police are the agency trusted to ensure public security and order. There is an act enacted by Parliament for that.

    In 1969, Tun Razak was the Defense Minister. It was under his instructions that the army was called in, to help restore order after the Police were unable to handle it (because of the intense fighting). Its still has not change until today. The armed forces could only be deployed upon explicit instructions by the Defense Minister. The army or any service arm are not compelled to act upon instructions of the Monarchs. There has not been any precedence where Malaysian armed forces were given explicit instructions by the Monarchs to deploy arms in a situation of conflict, be it domestic or abroad.

  2. big dog
    you are an idiot cause you just cut and paste something i can see on the MSM anytime.

    idiot.

  3. rpk is the biggest liar on malaysian earth. does who believe him is the most stupid people. his agenda is just to make anwar becomes the pm. by the way who is rpk? lawyer,magistrate,doctor….i guess not but a big time LOSER.

  4. idiot,
    i guess his name coz he put it under his comment.
    if u don’t like bigdog cut n paste of whatsoever, please do not visit his blog, he ain’t begging you to visit.

  5. Big Dog,
    You were wrong then and you are definitely wrong now.
    UMNO BARU, brace yourself for more bluster, blunder and petulance!!!

  6. Bro Bigdog , keep up the good work .. exspecially ‘straight-on-your-face’ comment .

    People seem to simply said you’re wrong when they have nothing to say or dont know what to say … hahahaha

    A lot of bloggers and blog readers are very hopefully of the November 10 “Yellow Shirt March” and easily being ‘sucked’ into it. The don’t really understand the system nor the are smart enough to try to understand before they throw their support in at what eventually became an Anwar Ibrahim-scam like this. At the end of the day, they are frustrated also their HOPE has been hijacked by Anwar, who himself is an abuse-of-power-convict and master manipulator.

    With this official media statement from the Istana Negara Grand Chamberlain, basically bushwhacked the HOPES to a million pieces!

  7. And forgot to say , RPK is a total liar …

    c’mon !!! Royal Malay Regiment’s is order to protect those monkey ? Just because RPK said it .. i wonder what type of people will believe it .

    Exactly my point! Royal Malay Regiment 19th Brigade can be deployed just like that????

    These are trained professionals. Their term of referrence is to defend this country, against aggression. They have take instructions and religiously adhere the chain of command (Battalion CO report to Brigade CO to Division Co (Panglima Divisyen) to Field Army Commander (Panglima Markas Tentera Darat) to Deputy Chief of the Army to Chief of the Army (Panglima Tentera Darat) and to the Chief of Defense Forces (Panglima Angkatan Tentera). Of course the PAT answers to the Minister of Defense, in that order and chain of command).

    The Sultan of Kedah, who is the Colonel-in-Chief of the Royal Malays play ONLY a ceremonial role, just like any other Colonel-in-Chiefs in the ATM and SPB YDP Agong who is the Field Marshall of the ATM.

    Why are people so gullible? That desperate is it?

    Regardless, to rumour against the integrity and professionalism of the RMR (by taking instructions from the Palace instead of the military chain of command) is purely equating our men in greens the to Phillipines or Thai army. Is there a Lt. Col. Gregorio “Gringo” Honasan in the Malaysian Army???? That is DEFINITELY NOT the Royal Malay Regiment or any other regiments and service in the ATM!

  8. Biggum,

    i am not interested in the peripheral stuff like the RMR 19th Brigade and etc.

    My point to you is this: Did the Agong issue a statement refuting his support for Bersih or not?

    This being the headline of your story.

    The official statement from Istana Negara says HM regretted that there have been rumours that he supported the rally. There is no other statement from his Private Secretary or personally by him. There is an absence of statement from him that HE ACTUALLY SUPPORTED the rally!

    Foreign media said HM disapproved rally for electoral reforms.

    Since there are no other statements, let alone a credible story that he actually supported the rally, so that is how I conclude it.

    So bloody disappointed what you hoped and stood for shot down as simple as that and blew in your faces, is it?

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  10. heheheh … kena belasah pasal lawak rejimen ke 19 RAMD, nak buka cerita pasal position Datuk Wan Mohd Safiain Wan Hasan la pulak.

    well, since RPK kata Datuk Wan Mohd Safiain Wan Hasan tu pecacai tua pengangkut najis je kat Istana Negara tu, then, mesti betul lah tu.

    takleh pakai la kenyataan Datuk Wan Mohd Safiain Wan Hasan tu bro. lu kena kena cari kenyataan orang lain la bro.

    p/s: make sure RPK approve dulu. kang tak valid pulak.

    Kawan rasa macam tu lah jugak…………….

  11. Bila-bila masa, tanpa perlu bahan rangsangan apa-pun (sebutlah apa saja – hari ini ice di tangga teratas) saya boleh membayangkan diri saya berdiri sebagai Sultan. Bila saya berada di tembok takhta, adakah saya akan membiarkan orang/pihak lain sibuk bercerita tentang bagaimana diri saya, apa ada dalam fikiran saya, di pot mana saya seronok bersantai libur, gadis etnik mana yang paling (mintak pause sekejap).. ermmm… dan lagi, dan lagi? Kawan, ia mustahil dan tidak mungkin walau satu inci pun!
    Malah, kembali pada diri sebenar sebagai seorang rakyat yang tidak memiliki harta waima seunit flet murah DBKL pun, saya juga tidak berkenan memberi apa-apa perkenan kepada mana-mana kenalan yang sibuk berlabun tentang hidup saya. Walaupun kata mereka alasannya demi tauladan kerana minggu lepas mereka nampak saya melilau terhoyong-hayang bersama dua botol air buih murah yang diseludup masuk dari negara separa komunis China. Kawan, itu hal saya dan ia tetap hal saya dan saya tidak meragut dompet kalian yang berisi kad kredit status emas. Tiada siapa tahu mungkin saya hanya ingin bereksperimen peribadi Sartre si existentialist yang ingin membebaskan dirinya secara mutlak hingga terjelepuk di birai jalan. Jadi esoknya selepas disimbah dua baldi air saya akan kembali okey.
    Katakan saya bernasib baik dan dapat kenalpasti kenalan yang sibuk berlabun tadi dan katakan namanya Peter, saya pasti akan bertanya, ‘apa yang tak kena dengan kau, Pet? Dia mungkin diam dan mungkin juga tersengih. Jadi saya akan kembali bersuara, ‘aku ada kenalan, neurological therapist, kalau kau bermasalah boleh kita pergi jumpa dia. Pet mungkin menolak pelawaan saya dengan berkata, ‘tak apalah…buat susah-susah aje.
    Jika saya seorang demokrat tulen saya hanya berhenti di situ, dan segalanya selesai di situ. Membiarkan saja dirinya ialah pilihan yang lebih dekat dengan falsafah hidup saya. Orang lain mungkin akan mendakwa (tapi itu orang lain, bukan saya) dan kemudian Pet (good luck for him) akan lebih khusuk melayan imaginasinya dalam penjara. Sepuluh tahun kemudian (bukan 10 tahun sebelum merdeka) buku setebal tiga inci bertajuk ‘Imiginasi Pet di Penjara’ akan menjadi bestseller.

  12. […] published on Friday, 16 November 2007 “What the eye does not see”, which was a reaction on the Grand Chamberlain of Istana Negara Dato’ Wan Mohd. Safiain Wan Hasan’s media statement, where HM SPB YDP Agong “regretted that he was implicated on the November 11 […]

  13. RPK should be thrown in under the ISA and left there for several years. At first he seemed as a useful informant to the people, then he has turned into an instigator and a menace to national peace and security. Bringing the people to the gates of the Istana is also grounds for sedition as it wishes to drag the institution making their concern important just to showcase the whole fiasco to the world.

    I have warned RPK not to try to pit the monarchy against the executive as it will be futile either way. It might’ve been worse if the monarchy took his bait as the Malays will lose out in the very end.

    PUT RPK IN BARS AND LET THE CHIPS FALL WHERE THEY MAY!

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  15. […] official statement issued by Istana Negara on 16 November 2007, against the rumours spread about HM SPB YDP Agong’s ‘perkenan’ of the 10 November illegal assembly and march, organized by BERSIH (in the guise of Oppositions’ political agenda), HRH Sultan of Pahang and […]

  16. […] usage of the word “Daulat Tuanku” were used by some people, especially here in bloggosphere, when their political aspiration is very much hoped for and/or perceived to be ‘entertained’ and …. Otherwise, they would not even bother about the HRHs at all, far out from using the phrase […]

  17. […] The anarchy is very apparent. These Pakatan Gangster cyber-anarchist went upto blatantly lying of the goodname  of HM Seri Paduka Baginda Yang DiPertuan Agong XIII Tuanku Sultan Mizan Zainal Abidin Ibni Almarhum Sultan Mahmood to create a confusion to justify that the Palace supported the 10 November 2007 illegal rally. […]

  18. DAULAT TUANKU……..

  19. […] as like Raja Petra in his Malaysia Today article “What the eyes does not see” once attempted to lie that His Majesty Seri Paduka Baginda Yang DiPertuan Agong consented on the BERSIH 10 November 2007 illegal […]


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