Did MSM’s reporting on Justice Ian Chin’s revelation tell all?

Justice Ian Chin of Sarawak High Courts made a shocking revelation today, about how a ‘Former Prime Minister’ was unhappy and exerted his power to a election petition case. Then it was a ‘boot camp’, an indoctrination process for the bench.

The Star reported this:

Wednesday June 11, 2008

Justice Ian Chin tells of threats and indoctrination attempt

PETALING JAYA: A High Court judge here revealed that a former prime minister had threatened judges. Justice Datuk Ian H. C. Chin also said he and selected judges were sent to a boot camp to ensure they got the message.

Justice Chin said this before hearing an election petition challenging the results of the Sarikei parliamentary seat which was won by a Barisan Nasional candidate by just 51 votes.

In a report in the Borneo Post yesterday, that comes hot on the heels of the findings of the Royal Commission on the V.K. Lingam video clip, Justice Chin said the threat from the former prime minister came after he handed down two judgments in 1997.

One was a judgment on a libel case involving MGG Pillai and Tan Sri Vincent Tan where he refused to give what he considered to be an astronomical award.

Justice Datuk Ian H. C. Chin… he and selected judges were sent to a boot camp to ensure they got the message

Justice Chin said the other judgment was in an election petition on Bukit Bangunan in the Sri Aman Division that he ruled in favour of Independent candidate Donald Lawan against Barisan Nasional candidate Mong Dagang.

“Shortly after the two judgments, the Judges Conference was held from April 24, 1997 where the then prime minister issued a thinly veiled threat to remove judges by referring them to a tribunal and stating that, though it may be difficult to do so, it was still done.”

Justice Chin said the former prime minister expressed unhappiness with what he termed ‘the Borneo Case’.

“Everyone knew which case he was referring to,” he added.

Justice Chin said after the threat, the former Prime Minister said people should pay heavily for libel and he only got a single response from a Court of Appeal judge who asked if he would be happy with a sum of RM1mil as damages for libel.

“He approved of it and later made known his satisfaction by promoting this judge (since deceased) to the Federal Court over many others who were senior to him.”

A month later, Justice Chin said he and select judges and judicial officers were packed off to a boot camp from May 26-30, 1997 where there was an attempt to indoctrinate them with the view “that the government interest was more important than all else.”

“Stating this devilish notion was no less a person than the President of the Court of Appeal. Everyone was quiet during the question sessions.”

Justice Chin added “the perversion of justice” continued and recounted an episode when a fellow judge Muhammad Kamil Awang told him he had received a telephone call from the then Chief Justice asking him to dismiss the election petition that he was going to hear in Kota Kinabalu.

“We went into the possibility of making a police report or of writing to the Chief Justice a letter to record what he had said over the telephone but in the end he decided against it since it would be his word against that of the Chief Justice,” he said.

Justice Chin said he was happy to later on learn that Kamil did not bow to the pressure and went on to hear the petition, thereafter making a decision based on law and evidence.

Justice Chin said he wanted the parties involved in the current petition and their counsel to hear his disclosure in case they wanted him to recuse himself.

The High Court judge said he had twice stood unsuccessfully as a Barisan Nasional candidate for a parliamentary and later for a state seat in Sabah in the 1980s and in one of those elections he was defeated by a DAP candidate.

“Now, though he is no longer the prime minister and so no longer able to carry out his threat to remove judges, the coalition party that he led is still around” and the second respondent was a Barisan candidate and “it may cross someone’s mind that I may have an axe to grind against the party concerned or any party thereof.”

To this, he said: “No amount of words from me would assuage you of your worry. You will have to read my judgments as to whether they are according to the evidence and the law or were influenced by threat.”

Chin then adjourned for half an hour to let the parties consider whether they wished to make any application for his recusal.

However, the parties – DAP’s Dr Wong Hua Seh and Barisan’s Ding Kuong Hiing – expressed their full confidence in him in presiding over the hearing of the case.

Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad was prime minister at the relevant time. He was not available for comment yesterday.

****************************************************************************************

Some salient points were conveniently omitted by the editors of major English dailies on this revelation by Justice Chin. This so called ‘boot camp’ was closed by then Deputy Prime Minister Anwar Ibrahim.

So why is this story surfacing now, in this tone? Why important points about this story was omitted? Is it because there is some vendetta that the Judge thought Prime Minister Dr. Mahathir “blocked” his promotion, which eventually went to Justice Tan Sri Richard Malanjun as the Chief Judge of Borneo?

Could it be, this story is hyped up at this juncture, as a diversion to the real issues of exorbitant retail price of petrol, which is affecting the lives of majority of Malaysians?

Former Prime Minister Tun Dr. Mahathir Mohamad is expected to respond to this, very soon. Conveniently, these ‘attacks’ on ‘Dr. Mahathir’s camp’, namely Dato’ Mokhzani and Tan Sri Sanusi Junid ( who was conveniently dismissed at the pleasure of HRH Sultan of Pahang, the Constitutional Head on 2 June 2008 ) are getting more vile. Not to mention on the statesman himself.

*Updated 3.15pm

Lawyer Matthias Chang has his opinion on Justice Chin’s statement:

JUSTICE DATUK IAN CHIN

MUST BE SACKED

AND

CHARGED FOR SEDITION & CONTEMPT

By Matthias Chang

Conduct Unbecoming of A Judge

Justice Datuk Ian Chin must be sacked for conduct unbecoming of a judge and prosecuted for sedition and contempt.

My grounds for calling such actions to be taken against the Judge are as follows:

A Unsubstantiated Allegations

The so-called disclosure made by Justice Datuk Ian Chin and published by the Star and New Straits Times, that the former Prime Minister threatened the judiciary has been contradicted by two judges as at 11th June 2008, namely:

1) Datuk Shaik Daud Mohamad Ismail, former Court of Appeal Judge

“It is a real shock. I do remember the (then) prime minister conveying the message about higher damages in defamation suits but not of any threats of removing judges via tribunal.”

(Emphasis added)

NST 11th June 2008

At page 6

2) A serving Judge (Name not disclosed in NST)

“Tun Eusoffe Chin (then Chief Justice) had invited (Tun) Dr. Mahathir (Mohamad) to personally address judges at the 1997 judges’ conference at a hotel in Shah Alam. The former PM did say that the government would not introduce a law to cap damages awarded to a party in a defamation suit and left it to judges to control it. He did also raise (Datuk) Ian Chin’s election petition argument, which the former PM said was “against us”. However, we did not speak up because the majority of senior judges felt that Chin’s ruling on that case was legally flawed. There were about 70 judges at the meeting but I think the majority of us, including Chin, were not influenced by what Dr. Mahathir said. I feel Chin took the opportunity to speak from the Bench because he thought Dr. Mahathir was responsible for blocking his promotion”.

(Emphasis added)

NST 11th June 2008

At page 6

It stands to reason, from the above statements, that Justice Datuk Ian Chin had no basis whatsoever in making the wild allegations against the former prime minister.

It is an indictment against the integrity of Justice Datuk Ian Chin that a serving judge is of the view that Justice Datuk Ian Chin’s wild allegations against the former prime minister may be actuated by malice and or self-manufactured delusion that his promotion was blocked by the former prime minister.

Any reasonable man and woman, in the light of the above wild allegations, can only come to the conclusion that Justice Datuk Ian Chin is not only, not deserving promotion, but to be appointed to the high office of a judge in 1992.

B) Reference to the term “Boot Camp”

To refer to a conference of judges and judicial officers on the 26th – 30th May 1997 as a “Boot Camp” to be “indoctrinated” is to use language unbecoming of a judge.

C) Bringing the Judiciary Into Disrepute

By making unsubstantiated the allegations against the former Chief Justice and the former President of the Court of Appeal, Justice Datuk Ian Chin has scandalised the entire judiciary and it is submitted that he has also committed contempt of court.

Questionable Motives

On reading Justice Datuk Ian Chin’s statement, one cannot but question his motives.

All we need to ask is the simple question, “Why now?”

If Justice Datuk Ian Chin is a man of principle, he ought to have made a police report and it is a lame excuse to say that “We went to the possibility of making a police report or of writing to the Chief Justice a letter to record what he said over the telephone but in the end he decided against it since it would be his word against that of the Chief Justice.”

If, in fact his allegations are true, as a judge upholding justice and truth, Justice Datuk Ian Chin should have faith in his own integrity and his fellow judges that ultimately truth and justice will prevail.

But, instead he makes excuses and his action is that of a coward and a man without principle.

In the circumstances, I called upon this disreputable judge to an Open Public Debate on the issues raised in his Open Court Statement within a week from the date hereof.

If he refuses, I am calling him a coward, a liar and a man unfit to continue in office as a judge.

And I challenge him to hold me in contempt of his court in making this challenge!

And I am warning Justice Datuk Ian Chin that I intend to lodge a police report against him on his unfounded allegation on the expiry of my notice to him to accept my challenge!

The courage of Justice Datuk Ian Chin’s convictions will be tested by the courage of my convictions!

A Challenge to the Current Chief Justice

If the current Chief Justice was present in the said conference, I demand as a citizen and a lawyer (and lawyers are officers of the Court) to know from the Chief Justice whether the allegation that the former prime minister threatened the judiciary is correct.

If not, whether the Chief Justice intends to advise the Yang Di-Petuan Agong and the Prime Minister to convene a Tribunal to investigate into the misconduct of this despicable judge and to recommend his dismissal and to hold the said judge in contempt of court.

A Challenge to Ambiga

I read with disgust the press statement of Ambiga, the President of Bar Council which presupposes that what Justice Datuk Ian Chin disclosed in Open Court was the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

If the allegation by the said judge is found to be without basis whatsoever, I am challenging Ambiga to have the courage of her convictions to lodge a police report against the said judge and to lead another “walk to the Prime Minister’s office in Putrajaya” to demand that the said judge be dismissed.

Ambiga, I have previously issued a challenge to you for a public debate.

I am now issuing another challenge to debate on the statement of Justice Datuk Ian Chin. You are to reply within 48 hours from the date hereof.

If you refuse, forever hold your tongue and desists from making stupid press statements concerning the judiciary. You sound like an opportunist and you act like one.

A challenge to Judges

I am sick and fed up of judges who have no guts to speak up when in office and to live up to their oath of office.

Judges demand an independent judiciary but are unwilling to make sacrifices to ensure its independence. It is such silence in the face of such outrages misconduct by a fellow judge that confirms the public’s perception that judges are opportunists and cowards.

Why make spurious allegations now and not before?

The problem of the judiciary is to be found within the judiciary. Don’t blame third parties for your sordid state of affairs!

To Fellow Malaysians

You may have noticed by now, that whenever the Badawi Regime has a crisis eg. The UMNO crisis following the General Election disaster and now the oil price fiasco, the Badawi spin doctors would attempt to divert your attention with allegations against Tun Dr. Mahathir Mohamad.

This happened just before the General Elections with the setting up of the Royal Commission and the wild allegations against Tun Dr. Mahathir Mohamad.

This is another side show to throw your mind and anger away from the oil price hike to a non-issue by a frustrated old Judge who cannot even lie properly. This judge is angry because he covets the post of Chief Judge of Sarawak and Sabah. He cannot understand why Tan Sri Richard Malanjun was promoted to the post instead. He blames the former prime minister but he care not to examine is infantile behaviour. And now, the desperate politicians are taking advantage of his stupidity for their political ends!

Don’t fall for this insidious tactic of the Badawi Regime and the blogs and websites fronting for Anwar Ibrahim.

*Updated 4.00pm

Tun Dr. Mahathir Mohamad gave his immediate response on the issue raised by Justice Chin.

*Updated Wednesday 18 June 2008 12.30pm

Finally, Former Prime Minister Tun Dr. Mahathir Mohamad gave his full side of his story to what Justice Ian Chin recklessly revealed and ruckusly raised, via NST.

Published in: on June 11, 2008 at 13:10  Comments (52)  

The URI to TrackBack this entry is: https://bigdogdotcom.wordpress.com/2008/06/11/did-msms-reporting-on-justice-ian-chins-revelation-tell-all/trackback/

RSS feed for comments on this post.

52 CommentsLeave a comment

  1. “And now, the desperate politicians are taking advantage of his stupidity for their political ends!”

    Hi Matthias, you said the right thing and allow me to add that we do not need politicians to run a country.
    How …. next change !

  2. I am sick of those wearing wigs who believes they’re special. They’re human too and perhaps sometimes under influenced by people surrounding them.

  3. To err is human
    to forgive – but why do I need
    to forgive when there is a remedy
    to each and all things?

    it is good that the judiciary
    state their mind as do the rakyat
    make their stand heard.

    Justice Chin said he was happy to later on learn that Kamil did not bow to the pressure and went on to hear the petition, thereafter making a decision based on law and evidence.

    A learned Malay judge is better
    than a china man judge
    a thousand fold.

  4. buat pembaca sekalian..ini adalah satu corak balas dendam segera paklah di atas pembongkaran Tun tentang Rapid Kl&Scomi.Ini juga menjadi ukuran di mana mentaliti sebenar paklah..

    Adakah rakyat begitu mudah di alih perhatian dan melupakan kesengsaraan sekarang yang terpaksa ditanggung akibat kenaikan harga barang..

    Isu Tun adalah perkara yang lepas tetapi isu Rapid Kl adalah isu semasa..Yang mana satu lebih penting..Tentang masa dulu atau kehidupan sekarang!

    Rakyat memerlukan penjelasan bukan pemesongan..

  5. It sounded like damage control.

  6. Bigdoggy,

    what has scomi to do with all? – over

    not fair young old man hitting old young man – over

    tell kid jerlun target gets bigger – over

    easy hit – over
    even for a russian tourist on a deck chair – over

    why take on scomi – over
    take on zaid – over
    piece of cake – over

    Scomi is the biggest contractor in the country now. It meteorically rose in too short of time.

    Now, Scomi dwelled into avenues that got themselves in so much trouble with the US. Many believed that the Kepimpinan has been ‘held by its balls’ because of this and thus the policy changes, especially foreign policies.

    The first clear example was in November 2005 at the ASEAN Head of Government Summit in KL, Malaysia played host. We led the charge against Myanmar, in pressuring for ‘Democratization’; something which the West had been pressuring the past 20 years. Malaysia defied the ASEAN rule of ‘non interference in domestic affairs’ in our own land, despite that we are a FOUNDING MEMBER!

  7. HEY MATHIAS CHANG,

    YOU JUST ANOTHER SPINDOCTOR FOR YOUR DICTATOR FROM UMNO, ******** MAHAFIRAUN….

    GO AND BURY YOURSELF IN A BIG PYRAMID COURTESY OF ********….

    I DONT BELIEVE IN ANY OF YOU OR YOUR ******* POLITIKS,,

    ALL OF YOU ARE BULLLLHITTTERS.L..

    Comments are welcomed. However, profanities are note!

    Please take not.

    Thanks

  8. no wonder not many comments here…

    moderated by the coward mathias chang and mahafiraun ….

    ha ha ha ha haa ha

    go to helll all of u

  9. does Mukhriz has good grip on the global economics to command the local?

    How many Pemuda Divisions and why not visit cawangans
    there is nothing in the perlembagaan that stops you from doing that.

  10. The fun starts!

  11. Stop it Pak Lah! We don’t want to listen to your shit anymore! Just step down!

    http://umnomuda.wordpress.com

  12. I understand Matthias Chang’s point in his comments on the second letter concerning Tun Salleh Abas. And now this judge. An indication of a mistake done by the government, RE: TUN SALLEH ABAS & THE GANG – EX-GRATIA PAYMENT?

    http://sexyjudge.blogspot.com/2008/06/for-fear-or-favour.html

  13. bagi saja judge ni sagu hati macam senior2 dia !

  14. Hey Madhati Chang,
    Why are you so riled up & upset over the allegations by Justice Chin? I don’t remember him ever mentioning your name and you’re acting like a mad-dog, attacking everybody, challenge this guy & that guy. What are you trying to protect?

  15. Yeah, biggie… you are right. Pak Lah’s balls have been held ransom.
    What abt the rest of UMNOs … do they still have any balls left ??

    Even if they have some balls, they must know where to shoot also. Do not shoot blank or shoot blindly.

  16. you r a disgrace defending a tyrant.

  17. why now? mesti ada hidden agenda.and this bar council another mangkuk.

  18. Where can I read the latest version
    of the kid jerlun’s point-by-point
    reasons for why Abdullah Ahmad Badawi
    should step down, and soon?

  19. That stupid Abdullah now going for a broke! He doesn’t care about UMNO or Malaysia no more! Pity those UMNO members. You got a stupid Malay leader! Really, really stupid! You know why this is stupid? The Malays will not rush in to rejoin or join UMNO after reading this stupids spin! In fact, existing Mahathir’s loyalist members will move out! Who will lose? It’s you ..stupid UMNO members!

    HGJ

  20. Why cakap banyak? Senang aje, just abolish OSA lah. All the shit will float up quickly for all the world to see. Tak payah bising lagi. Kes tutup. Abolish OSA.

  21. sadly to see, hear, read higly respected people acting like low class people…

  22. Ian Chin is still alive…..There must be some truth if not the total truth in it.

    He is brave enough to tell all.

    I believe in Ian so should all.

    Just because he is brave enough to “Tell all”, he is telling the truth?

    The timing is also highly questionable. If he had been really “telling the truth”, why now?

    Why after Richard Malanjun appointed Chief Judge? Why not much earlier?

  23. Hey Mathius you sound like a dog barking around, but seems you are a woman in pants as even your site do not have any point of contact so that I can take up your challenge on behalf of those who dare not come forward for seasons that you know very well.

    Some of the Challenges makes no sense and shows your brains is a piece of garbage, rather than an intelligent lawyer that you so egoistocally think so.

    Among them is your question wht only now and you also very well if it was than, what would happen. Like now do you still give the mamak a good blow job like when he was in Power!!

    Please go get a life for the image of your family instead of putting garbage on the internet.

    We already have enough of lies from UMNO Politicians and can do with another Chinese Dog licking a mamak dick issuing Challenges here and there.

  24. Hello Matthais….you must be one hell of a guy who is telling that whole world that even if C4 were implanted all over your family members, and you were told to keep quiet, you would still stick to your principle and just bark outloud. Family members can get blown up, never mind – as long as Matthais stick to his principles. Just what are you talking about, Matthais ? Your “Why Now?” will be the next catch phrase in this country after the korek, korek, korek. Some lawyer we have indeed !!

  25. Ask Mathias what his boss Mahathir and/he did about the killing of the poor Indian caddy and if anyone went to jail for the killing or even subverting the course of justice. If he can answer that truthfully, then you can believe some of what he writes.

    Otherwise I think you have treat what Mathias says as coming from his nether end only.Personally I believe the judge over Mathias or Mahathir.

  26. Why can’t people comment without getting so uptight over the issue? Looks like getting a Bangsa Malaysia is a long way off seeing the comments above. Mathias has his opinions..just cos he is defending a Malay, Chinese will get so uptight and yet these are the people who want a Bangsa Malaysia.

  27. After I view all the arguments from both side so far ……I will say Marthias 10 Ian Chin 0

    Ian is only beating around the bush. Anyone can make wild allegation on anythings.

    I can allege that Ian Chin is angry because he was not promoted to chief judge by Tun M …. this make more sense, anytime, anywhere.

  28. Dear All,

    For a bunch of intellects, you are behaving like pre historic cave men. Let the law take its course. Karpal has already made a police report in regards to this matter. Lets see if a commission is set up and then judge on the findings like civilised people. Why be like mongrels and bark at each other????

    redzuan

  29. DO not know why Matthias got so hung up with the disclosure acting like piles turning into bleeding hemorrhoids and not able to sit still.

    Being a “Barrister” himself, didn’t he know Judge Ian Chin made the disclosure in prior hearing so that either parties can disqualify him from presiding over their case should they have doubt about his future impartiality in making that judgment. It’s a must, not a political disclosure, just that his master’s name got tangled in it.

    Woody

  30. One may have often seen a Merce with tinted glass and bearing the insignia “HAKIM” with maybe an outrider. My point: These are men of with positions of integrity and importance and are rightly regarded as such by the Govt. Yet as in the case of TSA and now this righteous judge (they seem to be coming out of the woodwork) they did not have the forethought then to do the right thing! Resign and disclose your reasons and not wait years later with a (not so well) hidden agenda in head-lining disclosures.

  31. To Woody and those of his ilk,if you do not understand the post or see the point please don’t comment.

  32. Ifully agree with Lawyer Matthias Chang’s posting. The revelation by Justice Ian coincide withthe visit of Pak Lah to S’wak!! If Pak Lah keep on listening to his 4th floor boys,I think UMNO will vanish from face of this planet!! This sort of tactics to deviate the public from the core and pressing issue i.e. oil price, is considered childish befitting the advisers! Pak Lah can be considered as a person experiencing drowning, grasping whatever floating object pass-by even ‘tahi’.

    I fully agree that this judge should be hauled up by SPBYDP because you don’t expect AG or Pak Lah will initiate any action, even though any amount of police report being lodged!!’Cos the decision rests with the AG !!!

    Rakyat should be made to be aware of the spin by Pak Lah.

  33. Why do I write all these pseudo-comments?

    I must confess I wrote all the anti-UMNO, anti-badawi, anti-judges, all!

    So bigdoggy, you suck!

    Sincerely,
    A Matthias C.

  34. Freddie,

    Pls comment as much as you like as it is freedom of expression of opinion.

    In no point, anyone will ask others to shut up. Only people of tyranny intent is afraid of others to speak out and will make every attempt to stop that.

    Thank you
    Woody.

  35. Matthias also has said that US Finance Secretary was arrested by the Germans. That too was an unsubstantiated piece of rumor mongering and most undignified by an advisor to Mahathir (who has also lied in the past).

    Only way to get to the bottom of all this is to haul up Mahathir and Mathias into the courts. But Badawi is afraid of the famous chinese lawyer.
    Or maybe Badawi is clever enough to know that both these fellows will conveniently lose their memory once they step into a courtroom.

  36. Mathias,
    Who are you trying to protect? You sound like a rabid dog. Actually you are a rabid dog desperately trying to protect your master. Do you know you are covered completely in human faeces as you’ve stuck your head and body so far up Mahathir’s anus. Go look at yourself in the mirror.

  37. Dear KM Wong,

    What if i said you are pissed off by Mathias argument because you are protecting Ian Chin or PM flip-flop ?
    Therefore you are covered completely in faeces as you stuck your head in PM flip flop anus. And please dont go and look in the mirror.

    This is the kind of argument you have been posting. How do you feel ? Great huh ? Full of hatred but with no logical point at all.

  38. I am truly glad that you have voiced your point of view, and I have learned, from the vital and valuable information you have presented here.

  39. […] “These are serious charges. Chin used language unbecoming of a Judge”, reiterated Chang again today. He also questioned the timing of this, now, as previously also raised by BigDogDotCom. […]

  40. Firstly, let me clarify the point that Justice Ian Chin made the revelation prior to the hearing of the Election Petition was so that all parties are informed of the full facts and circumstances so that they can apply that he recluse himself if they so wish.

    Secondly, anyone with average intelligence who has read Justice Ian Chin’s numerous judgments would be able to tell that his judgments are based on the facts and the law, and unlike many other judges who seem to go on a frolic of their own in order to come to their decisions.

    Thirdly, I believe the statistics would show that Justice Ian Chin is one of the judges who has the least number of judgments which have been overturned by the Court of Appeal.

    Fourthly, nowhere have we heard of any delay in delivering written judgments attributed to Justice Ian Chin.

    Surely, all these are all qualities of a good judge.

    As such, I beg to be enlightened as to why Justice Ian Chin, being the most senior of all serving High Court Judges, has remained at the High Court for more than 16 years since February 1992 when many other judges who were much junior, had temprement which were unbecoming of Judges and with more unwritten judgments were elevated to the Court of Appeal?

    I may be ignorant of other facts, but something tells me that Justice Ian Chin remaining in the same position may be because he refused to consider granting astronomical awards for libel cases, or because he dared make decisions against the powerful, or more importantly, maybe because he is a Judge with a conscience.

    To Justice Ian Chin, I admire your courage.

    I just pray that the day would come when we had more Judges like Justice Ian Chin in Malaysia who would hold dear the oath they had taken when assuming office.

  41. Hey Mathias,

    You are a sick man. Defending a bloody dirty dictator who had damaged and ruined the lives of countless numbers of innocent Malaysians not to mention creating the mess we are all in now due to his selfish manipulations of justice and power. Your vile and spiteful vocals shows your shallowness through and through. Your writings are not worth our attention nor reading. Better for you to go running to your master like the good dog you are!

  42. BEDEBAHWI

  43. There is no doubt in the eyes of Mad-hate-there that his successor Badawi must go. Badawi simply don’t show any guts as a leader like his mentor Mad-hate-there. Badawi has not attempt to put opportunist running dogs like Mad-thiew-cun under ISA OSA what not. Badawi has not even charged Mad-hate-there for stabbing his back which Mad-hate-there lawyers/judges called such acts “sodomy” …

  44. […] “These are serious charges. Chin used language unbecoming of a Judge”, reiterated Chang again today. He also questioned the timing of this, now, as previously also raised by BigDogDotCom. […]

  45. Ex-Gratia for Ian Chin!!!!!!!!
    Hip-hip hurray!

  46. I think what am len67 wrote make sense dan ada logic..

    To Ixora, Chinese is defending a Malay?.. I think you are a racist bas..rd. wat has race gotta to with this.

  47. by the way, matthias since you r mamatir ex political seketari, tolong tanya dia how much moni dia ada kat bank overseas dan juga anak2 dia. how one family can acquire some much money..especially the sons… one of being them mentioned in forbes…think…

  48. Why Now?

    written by temenggong, June 14, 2008 | 14:29:13
    Hasn’t it been explained that Justice Ian Chan has to discharge his obligations to both the contending parties in his court, who may have perceived him to be biased and that his imparliality may be questioned later? His disclosure is his reasons for the offer of recusal!

    Can understand this or not?

    copy dari http://www.malaysia-today.net.

    now u know why now

  49. I am disregarding the racist comments that were made about Justice Chin being a China Dog. This is a lash out against the Chinese. Your racist comments only demonstrate your lack of education. Shame on you. You know what’s embarrassing? Racism didn’t occur in my school on a primary or secondary level. And yet, here you are, an adult, making irrelevant comments on Chin’s racial origins.

    With reference to len67,

    Firstly, let me clarify the point that Justice Ian Chin made the revelation prior to the hearing of the Election Petition was so that all parties are informed of the full facts and circumstances so that they can apply that he recluse himself if they so wish.

    Secondly, anyone with average intelligence who has read Justice Ian Chin’s numerous judgments would be able to tell that his judgments are based on the facts and the law, and unlike many other judges who seem to go on a frolic of their own in order to come to their decisions.

    Thirdly, I believe the statistics would show that Justice Ian Chin is one of the judges who has the least number of judgments which have been overturned by the Court of Appeal.

    Fourthly, nowhere have we heard of any delay in delivering written judgments attributed to Justice Ian Chin.

    Surely, all these are all qualities of a good judge.

    As such, I beg to be enlightened as to why Justice Ian Chin, being the most senior of all serving High Court Judges, has remained at the High Court for more than 16 years since February 1992 when many other judges who were much junior, had temprement which were unbecoming of Judges and with more unwritten judgments were elevated to the Court of Appeal?

    I may be ignorant of other facts, but something tells me that Justice Ian Chin remaining in the same position may be because he refused to consider granting astronomical awards for libel cases, or because he dared make decisions against the powerful, or more importantly, maybe because he is a Judge with a conscience.

    To Justice Ian Chin, I admire your courage.

    I just pray that the day would come when we had more Judges like Justice Ian Chin in Malaysia who would hold dear the oath they had taken when assuming office.
    _______________________________________
    I agree wholeheartedly with what len67 has said. If you question the time in which Justice Chin resurfaced this issue… you have to question Mahathir’s decision in promoting judges who are so much more junior in comparison to Chin.

    The Federal constitution talks about the separation of powers: the executive, the legislature and the judiciary. Why did Mahathir, the legislature…. intervene with judges’ affairs? Isn’t this a conflict of the separation of powers? WHY? WHY after the decision handed down by Chin? Why did he only decide to hold a so called ‘tata negara’ after the judgment handed down by Chin? Wouldn’t you question Mahathir’s ulterior motives?

    If you talk about Chin’s credibility, you have to question Mahathir’s. A close examination of Mahathir’s profile would show you the number of corruption charges he has against him. In fact, when I came to Australia at the age of 11. A couple asked me where I was from, and I told them I was from Malaysia… the first thing that they said was…”Oh, really? We don’t like Mahathir.” So… you can tick this off the checklist–> Mahathir is an internationally infamous figure for the atrocities that he has caused. Contrast this with Chin’s clean profile. NO backlog of cases, never delayed and always according to the rule of law. Contrast this to the judges that were promoted before him… the number of cases that were left delayed. These judges think with their penises and not with their brains. Have you ever considered the effect that this may have on the parties of an impending case? Child custody in a broken marriage… where is the child going to end up in?

    In analysing your webpost, your view of this subject matter is biased. You did not thoroughly weigh out the two possible sides of the story. If you disdain the people you support Chin’s allegations as truth, you’re being a hypocrite because you’re not substantiating YOUR argument. Your disregarding Chin’s qualities as a judge–> his clean record.

    Also, Mahathir’s insinuating comment “perhaps he does not like to wash his own dishes” is bullshit, because if you havent noticed, people of his generation were brought up in a culture where hardwork and humility is the key to success.

    I cannot help but laugh at Mahathir’s blog. It is so obvious that he filtered the comments that did not support him and allowed the ones that ‘angkat’ his ‘kaki’. Whatever happened to freedom of expression?

    I am seventeen years old, and I understand that in evaluating a situation, you have to weigh out both sides of the story in order to come up with an effective conclusion. If you claim to be so scholarly… I reckon you should reread your law textbooks and brush up on your essay writing skills.

    And what makes you think… after all he has gone through… that he will answer your meagre little ‘CHALLENGE’?

    You’ll never come close to be the man that he is. Not a chance.

  50. oh and btw, you’re implying that the reason why he’s bringing up this issue is because he’s unhappy with Mahathir supposedly blocking his promotion? Do your research. In an article in New Straits Time, it stated that he was offered a promotion in the Court of Appeal but turned it down because he did not want to move to KL.

    You don’t justify your stance with a couple of pro-mahathir interactive papers and your own beliefs. You need more than that.

  51. I’ll tell you one damn thing straight. The tax you pay? The allocation to law and order? The damned government is using it to repaint buildings that do not need repainting, fund conferences that involve shallow talk and nothing to do with how to improve the current judicial system, and to pay the wages of judges who can’t even speak proper English or know how to operate computers and have sex on their minds 24/7. (ofcourse, not all of them but a large majority of them make up a sex driven force) We’re in the 21st century for pete’s sake. It is extremely important for judges to be bilingual and to be up to date with judgments! Chin is BEYOND this. He was able to set up his own website publishing his judgments. So tell me, what other judges did this? Or are the other judges too ashamed to create their own, because out of 200 cases, maybe only about 10 are resolved?


Leave a Reply

Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in:

WordPress.com Logo

You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Log Out /  Change )

Google photo

You are commenting using your Google account. Log Out /  Change )

Twitter picture

You are commenting using your Twitter account. Log Out /  Change )

Facebook photo

You are commenting using your Facebook account. Log Out /  Change )

Connecting to %s

%d bloggers like this: