Lim Guan Eng is seditious

Chinese Chauvinist DAP Secretary General and Penang Chief Minister Lim Guan Eng is deemed making a seditious statement when stating at a Pakatan Rakyat Convention two weeks ago that DAP Political Secretary Teoh Beng Hock was ‘killed’ when he was interviewed by MACC at its Selangor headquarters in Shah Alam. However, Lim Guan Eng blasted the Police for the bias statement.

Malaysian Insider has the story:

Guan Eng blasts police over sedition threat

KUALA LUMPUR, Jan 3 — DAP secretary-general Lim Guan Eng today hit out at the police for threatening him with sedition over his remarks suggesting that Teoh Beng Hock was murdered, saying it was a concerted effort to topple him as Penang Chief Minister and break up the Pakatan Rakyat.

Lim said police should stop persecuting innocent people, adding statements from senior police officials showed they have pre-judged him despite their denials of bias.

“The police seem to have made up their minds to charge me with sedition,”Lim told The Malaysian Insider in a phone interview from Penang.

The opposition leader has a previous conviction for sedition and publishing false news, serving 12 out of an 18-month sentence in 1998 for rape allegations made against former Malacca chief minister Tan Sri Rahim Thamby Chik.

The police started their investigations on Dec 21 over remarks by Lim and another politician on Teoh’s death made at the Pakatan Rakyat convention on Dec 19.

Inspector-General of Police Tan Sri Musa Hassan said on Dec 30 that the police will not be biased in their probe.

Chief minister Lim not impressed with the developments. – Picture by Choo Choy May

“However, Lim’s allegations are considered seditious be- cause Teoh’s inquest is ongoing,” Musa told reporters.

“The sedition investigation against Lim is not politically motivated. His allegation can incite and confuse the public, causing them to turn against government agencies.”

But Lim said Musa and the police must be professional in their investigations.

“I am ready to be investigated but the police must be professional. Their statements suggest otherwise,” he added.

Lim disclosed that the investigations fit a pattern to take out popular Pakatan Rakyat leaders including Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim and Kelantan Mentri Besar Datuk Nik Aziz Nik Mat.

Anwar is facing a second sodomy charge while Nik Aziz, the popular PAS spiritual chief, has been criticised with charges of nepotism and possible corruption.

“Our political rivals believe they can snap the Pakatan Rakyat by taking out the strong and popular leaders. They are wrong,” Lim said.

He said the Barisan Nasional federal government and police should instead focus on bringing down the country’s crime rate and solve cases such as the embarrassing theft of two fighter jet engines from the Royal Malaysian Air Force (RMAF) base in Sungei Besi.

“The general elections are over. We can battle it out in the next one. Its time to take care of the country and the people,” Lim said.

Lim’s current brush with the law began over his remark that “Teoh Beng Hock had been cruelly murdered. I want to remind those responsible that we will not forget you because there is no forgiveness for you.”

Selangor police chief Datuk Khalid Abu Bakar had said that no one should make unsubstantiated remarks.

“Lim Guan Eng’s remarks can be considered to be an incitement, causing the public to believe that Teoh Beng Hock had been murdered.”

He added the police would also record a statement from Anwar to help in its probe against Lim.

A coroner’s inquest into Teoh’s mysterious death was postponed twice last month as pathologists have yet to complete their report on the second autopsy of the political aide’s remains.

The inquest by coroner Azmil Munthapa Abas was scheduled to resume two weeks ago but lawyers now expect it to continue this month.

The 30-year-old Selangor political secretary who was found dead at Plaza Masalam on July 16 after overnight questioning by the Malaysian Anti-Corruption Commission (MACC), which was probing alleged abuse of state funds by politicians from the ruling Pakatan Rakyat state government.

The findings of the second autopsy done at the Sungai Buloh hospital on Nov 22 are highly anticipated as they may confirm suspicions that Teoh was murdered.

Two foreign experts — Dr Peter Vanezis for MACC and Dr Pornthip Rojanasunand for the Selangor government — had observed the post-mortem carried out by Sungai Buloh Hospital chief pathologist Dr Shahidan Md Noor.

The renowned Thai pathologist earlier testified at the inquest that Teoh’s death was “80 per cent” homicide based on photographic evidence.

However, her views are contrary to the first autopsy done by local pathologists. The coroner then ordered the exhumation of Teoh’s remains and the second autopsy.

MACC officials have also lodged reports against Suara KeAdilan and Dr Pornthip over alleged leaks of the second report published by the PKR party organ.


The fact is that, the Police was just acting on Lim Guan Eng’s own speech. It is manipulative of him to tell Malaysian Insider that the Police “The police seem to have made up their minds to charge me with sedition “. What Lim said was supposed to make the rakyat distrust and possibly enfuriate them against the Police.

Seditions Act has been defined as per the Federal Constitution as:

(a) to bring into hatred or contempt or to excite disaffection against any Ruler or against any Government;

(b) to excite the subjects of the Ruler or the inhabitants of any territory governed by any government to attempt to procure in the territory of the Ruler or governed by the Government, the alteration, otherwise than by lawful means, of any matter as by law established;

(c) to bring into hatred or contempt or to excite disaffection against the administration of justice in Malaysia or in any State;

(d) to raise discontent or disaffection amongst the subjects of the Yang di-Pertuan Agong or of the Ruler of any State or amongst the inhabitants of Malaysia or of any State;

(e) to promote feelings of ill-will and hostility between different races or classes of the population of Malaysia; or

(f) to question any matter, right, status, position, privilege, sovereignty or prerogative established or protected by the provisions of part III of the Federal constitution or Article 152, 153 or 181 of the Federal Constitution. ”


Lim made the speech that Teh Beng Hock was “murdered”, with a connotation to blame MACC for the ‘sudden death’. Since the coroner’s inquiry has not concluded on the cause of death, hence Lim’s premature statement should be considered as subjudice and contempt of court, against the administration of justice.

Lim should be investigated under the Seditions Act. He delibrately wanted to cause the rakyat to distrust law enforcement agencies such MACC, The Police, Attorney General’s Chamber, Judicary and possibly enraging them.

That is undoubtably malicious by intent. He should be arrested and investigated.

Published in: on January 4, 2010 at 00:36  Comments (10)  

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  1. Masukkan si setan KKK ni bawah ISA je! He is a threat to the country!

  2. Bro, I believe there are enough evidence to prosecute Guan Eng for sedition and put him in jail for a second time. He knows that as well, typical Guan Eng and DAP tactic of diverting from the obvious, he made a mistake by saying those accusative words about Beng Hock’s death, it was recorded on tape and witnessed not just by the Police but the whole Pakatan leadership. The bitter irony for Lim is that the main witnesses of whether he uttered those inciteful words are the ones sitting closest to him and they are Anwar Ibrahim, Lim Kit Siang, Hj Hadi.

    While I believe the Police only needs to take Lim’s statement this week before they can file their papers to the AG for his decision, I hope they do not take a long time to decide to charge or not to charge Guan Eng for sedition like how they took a long time to charge Karpal Singh for Sedition. The longer it takes the more opportunities for the DAP to pull out all the tricks in the book to disparage and intimidate the Police and the Government.

  3. To the neutral observer, it looks like intimidation by the Police on Lim Guan Eng (LGE). What about our brother muslims who demonstrated against the High Court ruling on the usage of “ALLAH” in the Herald newsletter? They, too were expressing their anger on the ruling. I certainly do not want the Police to charge them for sedition.
    Put yourself on his feet. His party official died, under suspicious circumstances, while being a mere witness in a corruption investigation, for an alleged amount of less than RM10k. It is all right for LGE to let go off steam for being frustrated by the seemingly cover-up and delay in the inquest. Look at the comment LGE made in that context.

    • What are you talking about, man?

      In the case of the Muslims, the Judge has made a ruling, a decision has been made at her level and an appeal has not been filed.

      In LGE’s case, the Inquest is still on, the Coroner has not made a ruling, or given his finding. Can you not see the difference?

      And Big Dog has highlighted the relevant section of the Sedition Act – “(c) to bring into hatred or contempt or to excite disaffection against the administration of justice in Malaysia or in any State”

      Yes, TBH died under suspicious circumstances. But the Inquest to determine the cause of death is till on, man. Can’t you people get that into your head? It’s certainly is NOT “all right for LGE to let go off steam for being frustrated by the seemingly cover-up and delay in the inquest”. What cover-up are you talking about? Convoluted logic. Who causes the delay? Didn’t you read the various antics of the lawyer representing TBH’s family? From wanting to bring a Thai pathologist and losing time for her to be made availabe, to advising two persons (one of whom went to China) known to have last seen TBH against giving DNA samples, etc.

      What “neutral observer” are you talking about?

  4. Put him behind bars !

  5. Lim Guan Eng advocates law and justice.
    If by the same measure it is ruling against his favour, will he then cry foul?
    Or is it OK for other citizens of Malaysia but not him?
    Or is it OK if some other citizens do it therefore he should do it also?
    Or is it OK if he can show the enforcers as bad people therefore they should not carry out their duty on him?
    Is there a special law for Chief Ministers and another set for normal citizens?

  6. Minta la seorang MP yang betul-betul sayangkan ISLAM untuk memulakan satu BANTAHAN kepada VATICAN/POPE..minta semua MP yang betul-betul sayangkan ISLAM supaya tandatangan..

  7. Kepada On January 4, 2010 at 4:32 pm syamsul,

    Apa hal nak babitkan Pope/Vatican????? Tidak ada kena mengena. Adakah kita nak sembah ALLAH SWT dan nak bagi puji-pujian Kalimah ALLAH nak kena endorse oleh Pope/Vatican???

    Ini Malaysia, Ini Agama Islam…

  8. […] Leaders especially DAP such as Secretary General and Penang Chief Minister Lim Guan Eng, made a lot of hue and cry to a point should be deemed as ‘seditious‘ based on Dr. Pornthirp’s unqualified opinion (just by looking at photos) and pressure […]

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