Christianae Principes Seditionis

Church leaders in Selangor is heading on a very serious collision course with the law, by being seditious. Challenging the JAIS decision and authority to raid the Bible Society of Malaysia in Damansara Kim on Thursday 2 January 2014 and seized 321 bibles which contained the word “Allah”.

Riong Kali dot com story:

The day religious officers policed another faith in Malaysia

JANUARY 05, 2014

The Bible Society of Malaysia president Lee Min Choon says the Jais officials behaved like thugs during Thursday's raid. – The Malaysian Insider pic by Nazir Sufari, January 5, 2014.The Bible Society of Malaysia president Lee Min Choon says the Jais officials behaved like thugs during Thursday’s raid. – The Malaysian Insider pic by Nazir Sufari,

January 5, 2014.What would a Christian and a lawyer of 33 years standing have to do with Islam?

In most countries, nothing. But Lee Min Choon found out last Thursday that the long arm of the Islamic religious authorities can somehow extend to people of other faiths in Malaysia, despite the Federal Constitution allowing freedom of religion.

His story is well-known now. On that day, The Bible Society of Malaysia (BSM) president was powerless to prevent 20 enforcement officers from the Selangor Islamic Religious Department (Jais) from raiding BSM’s premises in search of Bibles containing the word Allah.

Despite knowing that Jais had no jurisdiction over non-Muslims, Lee was not even able to avoid arrest and instead, was taken to the police station like a common criminal. The Jais officials also seized 320 Malay and Iban language Bibles.

“Right from law school, we were taught that Islamic authorities only have jurisdiction over Muslims.

“But when I saw this bunch of thugs trying to force their way in, seizing our property and arresting me, I was utterly shocked and surprised that something like this could happen in Malaysia,” he told The Malaysian Insider.

Apart from arresting Lee and taking the Bibles, Jais officials also briefly detained BSM office manager Sinclair Wong at a nearby police station before releasing both on police bail.

Jais has ordered Lee to be present at their office on January 10.

In the drama that unfolded just after 1pm that day, Lee recalled that a group of 20 Jais officers behaving like thugs tried to enter the BSM office by pushing and banging on its main door, which was closed for stock-taking.

Having little choice, he had to let them in for safety reasons.

Five Jais officers were allowed to enter, but they started ransacking and throwing around boxes containing Bibles, with utter disregard to the holy books considered sacred to Christians, Lee said.

In the interview with The Malaysian Insider, a tired-looking Lee said that although he knew his rights as a lawyer, his legal skills and knowledge went out the door on the day of the incident.

“As a father who is a lawyer, I have been telling my two children to believe in the system and that our laws will protect them as long as they don’t do anything wrong, but all that can be thrown out the window now,” the 58-year old added.

It was not too long ago that Lee sat down with federal ministers, including Datuk Seri Idris Jala, and Attorney General Tan Sri Abdul Gani Patail to come with the 10-point solution in April 2011.

This is despite the fact that the Malay translated Bibles using the word Allah has been in existence since 1612, almost 400 years before certain states in Malaysia, including Selangor, came up with enactments banning the use of certain words including Allah by non-Muslims.

“The 10-point solution was a result of discussions between Christian leaders including us, the Bible Society, Idris Jala and the Attorney General who sat across the table from me.

“It was agreed that the Malay Bible, Alkitab, can be distributed without restrictions in East Malaysia while for West Malaysia it must have a cross and the words ‘penerbitan Christian’ (Christian publication) on the cover, to which we have been complying,” he said.

Lee also said that the Malay Bibles which are imported from Indonesia, go through a clearance check by the Home Ministry at Port Klang before they are released to BSM.

“All this was going on peacefully for two years until Thursday when we were raided and taken to the police station like common criminals,” Lee said.

Now, he is uncertain of what is to come, and fears the repercussions of the Jais raid could be far-reaching, just like the October 14 Court of Appeal ruling, which deemed that the word Allah was exclusive to Islam.

“You could be at home spending personal time with your husband and they could kick down the door because they are looking for a book with the word Allah in it,” he said.

On the court ruling, Lee said that although government ministers had come out to say that the ruling was limited to Catholic weekly Herald and was not applicable to the Alkitab, he tended to agree with lawyers who said that the ruling had a far wider effect.

“We see that happening with Jais, who seem to think that since the Court of Appeal had ruled that Allah belongs only to Muslims, any non-Muslim who uses the word is committing an offence and therefore they can act.

“So the lawyers were right, they could forsee the evil of the Court of Appeal decision,” he said.

Lee said further proof of the far reaching effects of the court ruling was the raid on BSM and the arrests of Wong and himself.

“So unless something is done to address the situation, it can happen again tomorrow, Jais can kick down the door of the church today and burst into homes looking for the Alkitab. And they have the police to provide the jails to hold all those arrested,” he said.

Asked if he was going to the Jais office on January 10, Lee  was non-committal and said that he had not yet plan so far ahead.

But he was certain that if he did not turn up, he risked being hunted by the police.

“The police bail document states that we have to appear in court on January 10 but it does not specify which court.

“When I asked the police, they appeared not to know and in the end, they told me to refer to Jais,” Lee added.

Lee also could not say what steps BSM could take to ensure there would be no repeat of Thursday’s incident.

“What can we do, we are at the mercy of the system, the Court of Appeal has ruled on the Allah case and these people say the state law give them power over non-Muslims.

“Non-Muslims are not immune to actions by Jais, that is the reality now,” he said.

Lee cautioned, however, that if the matter was left unresolved, BSM would also be prevented from carrying out its objective of providing Bibles as Jais might require them to furnish details of those who obtain Malay Bibles from them.

“Who would want to get Malay Bibles from us if they are going to end up on Jais’ database?” he asked. – January 5, 2014.


It is simple and clear, Bible Society Malaysia (BSM) possessed contrabands. Just because once probably the authorities at the borders had an oversight, doesn’t mean they are allowed to keep stock these unlawful documents. JAIS is just administering the law, which they have the authority to do so.

Making all these statements evidently point towards a single direction:

1. BSM broke the law (Selangor [1988 enactment] of Propagation of Non-Islamic religion)

The position and role of Islam

The position and role of Islam, from the Article 11(4) of the Federal Constitution and relevant enactments on the Propagation of Non Islamic Religions

2. Lee broke the law (Sedition Act Sect 3.1[a-f])

3. BSM, Lee and Wong broke the law (Federal Constitution Articles 3 [1] and [5] and 11[4])

Lee and Opposition leaders in their statements insulted HRH Tuanku Sultan Sharafuddin Idris Shah Ibni Almarhum Sultan Salahuddin Abdul Aziz Shah of Selangor for his decree against Non Muslims prohibition to use the word “Allah”, which is “Exclusive only to Muslims”.

The interpretation on the position and role of Islam as the Religion of the Federation of Malaysia by Court of Appeal Judge Dato’ Mohd. Noor Abdullah is very clear.

Court of Appeal Justice Dato' Mohd/ Noor Abdullah's ruling on the position and role of Islam in Malaysia

Court of Appeal Justice Dato’ Mohd. Noor Abdullah’s ruling on the position and role of Islam in Malaysia

The nationwide enactment in 1988 was designed to prohibit any attempts to prosetylise Muslims into Christiniaty. As such, the introduction of the Malay bible Al Kitab with kalimah “Allah” in place of God is a systematic and continuous agenda to protetylise Malay-Muslim in Semenanjung into Christianity.

This is part of the sinister bigger agenda of these minority taking power and control of the country, which was first revealed in vows and prayers made at the post April 2011 Sarawak State Election in an event organised by DAP MP for Jelutong on 5 May 2011 in Penang to honour some of pastors who participated in the campaign.

Chinese Chauvinist DAP and church leaders who participated in ‘vow’ at the Red Rock Hotel in Macallister Rd Penand on  5 May 2011, identified

As a reaction, Opposition leaders namely the Chinese Chauvinist DAP, expressed their intention to amend the Selangor enactment.

The Malay Mail story:

Amend Selangor Non-Islamic Religions Enactment 1988 — Yeo Bee Yin, Rajiv Rishyakaran, and Lau Weng San

JANUARY 3, 2014

JAN 3 — We will propose to amend the Selangor Non-Islamic Religions (Control of Propagation Among Muslims) Enactment 1988 in the next state assembly sitting to ensure that Muslims continue to be protected from propagation, while ensuring that the rights of non-Muslims are protected as enshrined in the Federal Constitution.

We were shocked by the unprecedented Jabatan Agama Islam Selangor (JAIS) action yesterday, raiding the Bible Society of Malaysia for bibles containing the words “Allah”. JAIS has acted in the name of enforcing the Selangor Non-Islamic Religions (Control of Propagation Among Muslims) Enactment 1988, which was passed under the Barisan Nasional regime.

Firstly, we would like to remind JAIS that Selangor Non-Islamic Religions Enactment 1988 only applies to control and restrict the propagation of non-Islamic religious doctrines and beliefs among the Muslims. It shall in no way be used to restrict anyone from practicing and professing their own religions in their preferred language.

JAIS reckless action serves as a wake up call for us to seek a review of subsection 9 of Selangor Non-Islamic Religions Enactment 1988, which states that a person commits an offence if he (a) in any published writing; or (b) in any public speech or statement; or (c) in any speech or statement address to any gatherings or persons; or (d) in any speech or statement which is published or broadcast and which at the time of its making he knew or ought reasonably to have known would be published or broadcast, uses the word “Allah” or 34 other Arabic words including Hadith, Syariah, Kalifah, Fatwa, Alhamdulillah, Insyaallah etc to express and or describe any fact, belief, idea, concept, act, activity, matter or thing of or pertaining to any non-Islamic religion.

This section clearly contradicts Article 11 (1) & Article 11 (3) of the Federal Constitution, which provide every Malaysian the right to profess, practice and manage his or her own religion. As such this section should be amended to ensure that extreme groups will not act against persons of other faiths at their own convenience. The enactment must be consistent with the Federal Constitution which states under Article 11(4) that “State law and in respect of the Federal Territories of Kuala Lumpur and Labuan, federal law may control or restrict the propagation of any religious doctrine or belief among persons professing the religion of Islam”, but does not allow for curtailing the rights of non-Muslims in the manner which they practice their own faith.

We seek the support of all Selangor lawmakers to vote for an amendment to the Selangor Non- Islamic Religions Enactment 1988 in the spirit of the Federal Constitution to ensure that the rights of all Malaysians are given equal protection under the law, as conceived by our forefathers.

We must not let the extremists in our midst to dictate the state and national agenda to the extent that the minorities are victimised unjustly. Let us take a bold step of change and lead Malaysia towards a bright future – a Malaysia for all Malaysians, based on the principle of equality, human rights and justice.

* Yeo Bee Yin, Rajiv Rishyakaran, and Lau Weng San are respectively the members of the Selangor State Assembly for Damansara Utama, Bukit Gasing and Kampung Tunku.


This is  nothing but another provocation and eventually perpetuating the consistently growing insults against HRH Sultan of Selangor and the Malay-Muslim majority even in Selangor.

What Father Lawrence Andrew said about some of the Selangor Christians would be defiant against Tuanku Sultan Selangor did come true. Some of these church leaders in Selangor blatantly demonstrated their utter gross disrespectful of the position and role HRH Sultan Selangor as the Constitutional Head of Islam in Selangor by defying his decree and continue to use kalimah “Allah” in the sermon in Malay on Sunday.

Klang church continues to use ‘Allah’ in BM mass

FZBy kanagaraju.s | FZ – 11 hours ago

KLANG (Jan 5): The practice of using the word “Allah” to refer to the Christian God was maintained during Sunday mass in Bahasa Malaysia at the Church of Our Lady of Lourdes here today.

The church had become the centre of attention after a group of Muslims threatened to gather outside the building today to protest against the use of the word by Christians.

As it turned out, there were no protests at the church.

Instead a group of Muslims and other non-Christians – among them Datin Paduka Marina Mahathir – came there with flowers to express solidarity with the Christians.

The Bahasa Malaysia service, led by parish priest Rev Michael Chua, was attended by some 200 worshippers.

They word “Allah” was used when they sang songs and also during the sermon.

“I’m grateful that the event that was supposed to arrive at our doorstep didn’t happen and we thank the police for keeping the church secure,” Chua told the worshippers.

Before the service ended, Chua told them to pray for continued peace in the country and for people to show respect for one another.

“Christians should be able to enjoy the freedom to choose which language they want to worship God with,” he added


This is blatant insult against HRH Tuanku Sultan Selangor.

It is time that the Federal Government relevant agencies (JAKIM, AGC, Home Ministry, Police) work hand-in-hand with the relevant State authorities (JAIS) and resolve this matter for once and for all. There are existing laws enough to reprimand all these seditious acts and statements.

The nation cannot be divided by these deviant minority within the minority.

The Malay-Muslim majority deserve the right to live in peace and harmony, without these disobedient and ungrateful Malaysians. Since all these are about blatant insults and disobedience, forget tolerance. Now it is about pushing the patience envelope right to the limit where the thin ice cracks.

* The title reads: Seditious church leaders

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  1. Another well-researched post. Well done, BD.

    No two-ways about it, the authorities must take action on those who don’t respect the laws and on Islam being “the religion of the Federation” and that “other religions may be practised in peace and harmony.”

    Arrest them, charge them in Court, let them defend themselves, but, if necessary, the authorities must bring it up to the highest court of the land – the Federal Court. I have every confidence that ultimately it’s the intention of those who had the Constitution and the State laws drafted to protect and promote the rights and interest of the Islamic religion.

    As Professor Emeritus Shad Salem Faruqi, an expert in Constitutional Law in this country, has said, in the last analysis, the Judges of the highest Court of the land will have to go to the intention of those who had the laws drafted to determine what was intended or meant by anything written in the Constitution or Enactments made by the States concerned.

    Meanwhile we have the Police and the Army to ensure existing peace and order is maintained. Nip any untoward incidents in the bud, arrest and where relevant, detain the trouble-making ones under the amendments to the Prevention of Crimes Act which allow detention without trial for 2 years, extendable another 2 years.

  2. Their narratives when faced with enforcement would usually be that they were surprised, the enforcement officers were rough and crude, that their so-called minority rights were trampled. Well we are too familiar with their subtle arrogance, defying enactment , court decision and Constitution and seeking sympathy from the public. What they will never disclose is their motives for insisting the use of the kalimah Allah being their sinister agenda to lead astray Muslims and weaken their ‘tauhid’ and ‘ aqidah’. It will be helpful if authorities could make public the number of apostasy cases in Malaysia so as to highlight the gravity of the phenomenon because many Malays tend to look at the issue as Muslims being intolerant and exclusive. There is too much exercising of caution so as not to upset the non Muslims hence this serious issue is treated with kid’s glove – gently and nicely. At the same time we sense some non Malays who are not even Christians are joining in the bandwagon on the side of this stubborn and arrogant group of Christians. They condemned Malay Muslims as intolerant without realising that the Muslims didn’t start the fire and the Muslims are only responding to the irresponsible behaviour of some Christians who purposely upset the status quo and show complete disrespect for the Muslim faith. Being tolerant and going on the offering flower approach must be tampered with the realisation that tolerance must be shown by all sides. The fact that this Christian group stubbornly insists on using kalimah Allah when the word Tuhan is available for them to use, shows their utmost intolerance towards the sanctity of the Islamic faith. Yet the worse thing of all they whine and cry like kids seeking sympathy when being told they can’t have the candy. It is always others fault and not theirs.

  3. Dari padanan artikel, di lihat tiada sebab kerajaan tidak boleh bertindak. Kemaruk begini, hanya penguatkuasaan jalan penyelesaian. Hanya PM dengan kuasa di tangan boleh menggerakkan persepaduan. Ini bukan lagi perkara jalanan.

    Hak Melayu dan Islam tidak boleh di korbankan jika inginkan kejayaan Negara di masa hadapan.

    Siapa mereka sehingga Pentadbiran Pihak Berkuasa di hina ke tahap sampah ? Sultan di anggap lebih rendah kedudukan nya dari mereka yang membuat onar di mana tahap mereka sememang nya hina di sisi Tuhan ! Nauzubillah min zalik.

    Bukan kah impak nya terlalu negatif secara dalaman dan luaran ? Betapa nilai Perlembagaan dan Perundangan Negara sudah di cabar berdepanan !

    Terakru NUCC akan cuba mengatasi kemelut ini. Dari segi silang budaya tiada halangan. Masaalah nya ia melibatkan perkara yang amat sensitif (agama) di mana dahulu kita saling menghormati termasuk bangsa, kaum dan budaya.

    Hal sejagat dan mesti di kekang oleh pihak berwajib tertinggi dalam kontek Negara Berbilang Bangsa.

    Apa guna kerajaan yang tidak berfungsi ? Didik lah rakyat yang konon nya bijak, berilmu, moden tetapi realiti nya hanya turutan jahilliyah, mentaliti kelas 3; bersama fitnah dan retorik di jadikan senjata WMD membinasakan kebaikan yang sudah di bina dari pengorbanan besar, titik darah, jerih dan penghinaan.

    Kini ia masih berlaku. Apa yang masih tidak kena ? Negara-negara jiran yang daif dan ketinggalan, dulu, sudah bangun dan berdiri dengan sasa.

  4. This write up is dedicated to our fellow Malaysian Father Lawrence Andrew and the Malaysian evangelical Christians.

    The word Allah though not exclusive to Islam, carries the attributes of God the greatest, Allah. Allah is  the God of all mankind and the universe.  Allah is neither a matter nor energy! There are 99 attributes of Allah in the Islamic faith. Anything that you are able to imagine, perceive, see, touch, smell, taste or hear by our six senses is not God, definitely not Allah. Allah is the Alpha and the Omega. Allah is the Uncreated. The Uncreated cannot create another Uncreated!  I refer to the  Holy Quran, Surah Al-Ikhlas ….”Say Allah is One. Allah is the Master of the universe. Neither does Allah beget nor Allah begotten. There is none other like Allah for Allah is One and Only”  (Please note that I don’t use gender to refer to Allah).  So if we pass this test we can use the word Allah.  No problem!

    Judaism is more consistent with Islam. Like the Jews  we pray to the same God Allah and Allah’s perfection. And there is no controversy whatsoever if the Jews want to use the term Allah. But Muslims like the Jews can’t accept the  Christianity’s Triune God..the concept of Trinity. Three in one….God, Jesus  and the Holy Spirit. The Uncreated created the God-man Jesus. God Almighty and Jesus the man are one.  God is not begotten but made. In Islam this is kufar…blasphemy. Totally unacceptable because the Uncreated cannot create the Uncreated!. 

    The monotheistic religions (divinely revealed as compared to man-made religions) are more than just Islam, Judaism and Christianity. All of them have the same roots and revealed by Allah through the messengers of Allah. They have the same traditions. They had existed since the messengers of Allah and prophets Adam AS, Noah AS, Idris AS, Solomon AS, Abraham AS, to name a few, and Muhammad SAW  was the seal of the messengers (Rasulullah ) and he perfected it. These were messengers (Rasulullah) of Allah (there were 25 of them) and divine revelation  was passed through them. Both the Rasullah and the Prophets (Nabi) (there were by the thousands) were specifically sent by Allah for their own respective communities and the reach was not  universal. Moses was sent for the Jews and so was Jesus. But Muhammad SAW was sent  for the whole of humankind.

    The issue now is within the realm of theology and politics. I have touched on the theological part as I have already explained above. If the Christians can embrace the concept of Allah as what the Muslims and Jews believe in, that is, God is one without the infusion of Trinity, then we are on the same side, and the use of the word Allah is most welcome. But if the fundamental belief of Christianity is still God, Jesus and The Holy Spirit or the Holy Trinity, then for the Muslims it is fundamentally blasphemous and unacceptable. To stretch our discussion further,  the Hindus are of the view that Hinduism too believes in one God, Krishna and other gods are manifestations of the one God, Krishna. And for the Muslims this is definitely kufar that is polytheism at its worst which negates the concept of unity and perfection of Allah.

    We are curious why the Catholic Church is all out to use the term Allah when the term Allah isn’t an integral part of the Christian faith  and the concept of Trinity is in conflict with the attributes of Allah. The Church argument is that the term Allah has been used for centuries in Sabah and Sarawak and translated from the word God, in the Alkitab..the Malay Bibles. And the term Allah is being used in Indonesia and the Middle East. We would like to express our opinion it is a mistake that the Christian missionaries in those countries and centuries translate the term God as Allah and it should be corrected. A mistake being practiced for centuries is still a mistake even though it has been so entrenched. 

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