The Lame Blame Game

The failure of Opposition MPs to co-ordinate themselves to defeat the Government on amendments to the Prevention of Terrorism Act (POTA) Bill was passed without changes, resulted to the lame blame game amongst the partners-of-unholy-marriage-of-(in)convenience-between-backstabbing-strange-bedfellows.

Pakatan MPs defend absenteeism in Parliament after anti-terror law passed unchanged

BY SHAZWAN MUSTAFA KAMAL

Tuesday April 7, 2015
02:54 PM GMT+8

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KUALA LUMPUR, April 7 — On the defensive after the controversial Prevention of Terrorism Bill was passed unchanged today, opposition lawmakers blamed the Home Ministry for what they claimed to be undue haste in pushing through the new law that revives preventive detention.

The Pakatan Rakyat (PR) MPs said their 26 colleagues who were missing during the debate of the bill in the Dewan Rakyat last night had “legitimate” reasons for skipping out, adding that there was no prior instruction for all opposition lawmakers to be present.

“When tabling laws like this, they should give more time as the Act is not a small issue,” PAS Shah Alam MP Khalid Samad told Malay Mail Online, referring to the Home Ministry.

“Don’t make it normal practice to drag proceedings until 2am,” he added when met at the Parliament lobby.

PAS chief whip Datuk Mahfuz Omar, who was himself absent last night, claimed that he had no idea there would be block voting on the anti-terror law.

“I had a planned engagement in Kedah.There was no instruction for us to be present.

“I did not know there would be block voting,” he told Malay Mail Online.

PKR chief whip Datuk Johari Abdul played down the absence of PR MPs, saying that “most” of the them were present.

“Most of them were, only a few were not here and we had concrete reasons,” Johari, who was also absent said.

But DAP Petaling Jaya Utara MP Tony Pua asserted that most of his party’s were present, and that federal lawmakers were aware that the Pota would be deliberated yesterday.

“We were here. Of course there would be block voting, the point is to be prepared for that,” he told Malay Mail Online.

The Pota was passed without amendment at the Dewan Rakyat at about 2.25am this morning after a debate of more than 12 hours.

The bill was passed after the ninth block voting, with the final voting favouring the government when 79 MPs from Barisan Nasional (BN) agreeing on the bill while 60 MP from PR disagreed.

Tabled in Parliament last Monday, Putrajaya’s proposed new law will allow authorities to detain suspected terrorists without bringing them to court for up to two years, with a Prevention of Terrorism Board (POTB) empowered to renew the detention order for an indeterminate amount of time.

Judicial reviews of such sentences are not permitted, according to the Bill, except for questions on its compliance with procedural matters.

Opposition lawmakers have claimed such provisions mirror that of the now-repealed Internal Security Act (ISA) 1960 which was often used to silence political opposition to the establishment.

They also argued that the government already have strong existing laws like the Special Security Offences (Special Measures) Act to deal with terrorism, noting that it allows for long detention for investigation.

Home Minister Datuk Seri Dr Ahmad Zahid Hamidi did not address the question but argued that existing laws were not equipped with preventive powers, which is required to deal specifically with terrorism.

– See more at: http://www.themalaymailonline.com/malaysia/article/pakatan-mps-defend-absenteeism-in-parliament-that-passed-anti-terror-law-un#sthash.1lugUqQu.dpuf

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In an extended several proposals by Opposition MPs which include notable lawyers such as N Sunrendan and Mohamed Hanipa Maideen to make changes to the POTA Bill.  The whole process saw these proposals being debated and voted and Dewan Rakyat sitting ended at 0225hrs earlier today.

Despite some heated exchanges between MPs of both side of the augur chamber, the Opposition failed to change the Bill which was introduced and defended by Home Minister Dato’ Seri Dr Ahmad Zahid Hamidi.

NST story:

Dewan Rakyat passes POTA without amendment

7 APRIL 2015 @ 7:30 AM

KUALA LUMPUR: The Prevention of Terrorism Bill (POTA) 2015 was passed without amendment at the Dewan Rakyat at about 2.25am after a debate of more than 12 hours.

The bill was passed after the ninth block voting, with the final voting favouring the government when 79 members of parliament (MPs) agreeing on the bill while 60 disagreed.

Earlier, the bill which was smoothly debated at the policy stage, passed through a difficult committee stage when numerous amendments were proposed by opposition members of parliament to the extent that the debate and winding up stage had extended into the early morning.

The situation was made more difficult when the opposition insisted on amending almost all the 35 Clauses, forcing eight block voting to be carried out for each motion for amendment proposed throughout the debate at the committee stage before the final vote was made to pass the bill.

However, all the block voting ended with the vote favouring the government, thus rejecting the motions for amendment proposed by the opposition.

Among the motions for amendments proposed by the opposition were for the rank of the police officers involved in the arrest of any suspected person should not be lower than a Superintendent and for the period of remand not to exceed 14 days compared to 21 days as the proposed in the bill.

The opposition also proposed for several provisions, including under Article 13-28 concerning detention order and restriction be scrapped as they were described as having mala fide (bad intention).

Home Minister Datuk Seri Dr Ahmad Zahid Hamidi when winding up the debate at the committee stage said the government was not in the opinion that the amendment proposed by the opposition should be made now.

He said POTA should be seen with the eyes of faith to really understand the government’s intention in introducing the law, while at the same time, should not be compared to the Prevention of Crime Act (POCA) 1959.

Earlier, when winding up the debate at the policy stage, Ahmad Zahid said the element of rehabilitation was the main priority in the implementation of Pota.

He pointed out that this was because Pota could not be viewed only from the legal aspect alone as it was more ‘preventive’ in nature.

“The element of rehabilitation on the detainees is a priority. The detention record of the detainees to the extent that the act was abolished, that is, from a total of 10,800 ISA detainees, 90 per cent were successfully rehabilitated,” he said.

Ahmad Zahid also gave an assurance that Pota would not be abused and no one who had political differences of differing opinion would be detained under this law.

“This is the transparency of the present government where we allow the freedom of political differences,” he said.– BERNAMA

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The fact that Opposition MPs fail to co-ordinate amongst themselves intra and inter party for this Bill is reflective of the coalition is getting brittle by the day.

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  1. No, they simply cannot defeat any Bill tabled by the BN Government in Parliament. BN has the majority. The BN Minister in charge of matters in Parliament has the job of ensuring there are sufficient BN members voting at the relevant times. He’d be sleeping on his job if a Bill is defeated. Never mind if the voting is at 2,30 am. Or at 5 am.

    All the Opposition blokes can do is make noise. Raise all sorts of issues. And the Speaker allows sufficient time for them to speak out whatever nonsense some of them put out. And counter argued by the BN members. That’s called a debate. That’s the system. That’s democracy.

    At the end of the day – or days if need be – the Bill is passed. Within the time frame planned or allowed under the rules.

    The Oppos know these. That’s why the Surendran bloke, for example, issued a written statement published by the Oppo so-called news portal. Alleging POTA is against the Constitution Article 151 on Advisory Board whatever (which already exists in Article 8). Fearing he might not have the chance to speak on that in Parliament. So many members raise their hands to speak each and every time the floor is free. And the Speaker has to give the opportunity to the less noisy MPs to also speak up.

    Good that the POTA Bill is now passed. Will become law after the usual mandatory gazetting.

  2. Yes, the Oppos will, of course, always put out “the other, oppositional views” on any subject. Interpreting the Constitution and other laws according to their perception, sometimes weird, skewed and from squinted eyes.

    The Bill is passed and if they want to test the validity of their arguments, they may let themselves be guinea pigs, get arrested under that law and argue until the highest court of the land wherever allowed under that Act.

    Terrorism is a damn serious matter. Every plan to terrorize must be nipped in the bud. We had decades of bloody bitter experience of decades of communist terrorists under the bastard recently dead Chin Peng. Sympathized by DAP Lim Kit Siang who wanted that he be allowed to enter the country when alive and thank God PDRM banned the non-repenting terrorist even when dead.

    So, POTA passed without any amendment is the way to go. The Police must be given all the tools to fight the terrorists, intending and would-be terrorists. Smell any link with terrorists, bastards must be nabbed, chucked into the detention centre, observed and perhaps “educated” by talks on the futility of their plans. If allowed time for them to become full-fledged terrorists, it’ll be too late. They already become extremists, hard-headed and so infused with the idea of achieving their purposes that no amount of persuading will deter them any more.

    And remember, those purposes may include death. Suicide bombing etc. What they may call martyrdom. By killing others, including kafirs. Surely the Oppo Hippos won’t want that and should cease grumbling on POTA.

  3. Please don’t despair my fellow Pakatan followers. All we now should do is reverse the POTA Bill by launching a new street demonstration program, #kitaGostanPota
    Be prepare to be in Purple Attire, as not to confuse with past demonstration failures. Also please bring along your infants, nephews and nieces. Street Clowns will also do juggling and entertain us with their amazing magic trick, fire breathing bull-shit on through the night.
    Cheers All
    Take Note Fans, stay tune to more ridiculous street antics from your PKR MPS coming soon to a town nearest to you…

    PKRBozoTricks

  4. If the PM had not abolished the ISA and EO, the Government would not have wasted precious time, energy and the hustle of getting it enacted in Parliament, in the first place. Therefore, more time could be spent on the Rakyat’s welfare rather than talking about SOSMA, POTA, POCA, PUKI, etc. The Rakyat too would not have to bear upon these nonsense and stupidity.

    This is what happen when you listen to the opposition too much. “The Government that listen to the people”, my foot.
    The next PM, please listen to those who voted for you.

  5. Hahaha, Pakatan not brittle, but sudah pecah, bro. Now tarak kipala, no Parliamentary Opposition Leader and Azizah calling for unity that I doubt Hadi and PAS would bother, like he didn’t on her candidacy to the Selangor MB post some time back, PKR curi the loyalty of 2 Selangor PAS ADUNs to ensure majority support for her. That made Hadi furious because done without consultation and obviously stealthily, starting the huge feud, Hadi refusing to attend Pakatan leadership council meetings leading to Tokong Lim saying DAP don’t want to deal with Hadi.

    Now they are all pointing fingers at one another for not being in the Chamber at election time at 2.25 am that morning. After all the POTA Bill was carried by just 19 votes. Tony Pua claiming “most” of DAP MPs were there but the fact remains that even DAP were not alert on the the likely time the Bill was going to be put to the vote. Gigit jari lah depa. Now continuing to make noises outside Parliament. Boo hoo.

  6. I like this opinion piece in FMT accusing PR of betrayal –

    “Pakatan Rakyat goofed in regard to POTA

    PR can get ready to be roasted by its supporters for failing to be present to vote against the dreaded Prevention of Terrorism Act 2015.”

    It says PR has acted irresponsibly and have betrayed the expectations of Malaysians. They were expected to “protect the human rights of citizens, safeguard the rule of law and ensure that abusive laws are not passed by default.”

    It adds that Malaysians have been terribly let down by PR’s failure to anticipate that the BN was determined to push through the Bill. The fact that the BN was prepared to stay on in Parliament until 2.25 am showed how determined they were to have the POTA Bill passed.

    But then, PR knew all along that the Bill would be passed. Even if PR MPs had been present full strength, BN would still get their numbers higher by 10 or so. And don’t forget – 2.25 am may be gambling, karaoke-ing and yamseng-ing for many DAP fellas.

    Whatever it is, they would be whacked for not showing a better performance than 60. Talked so much but cakap tak serupa bikin again.

    • So many have slammed Pakatan Rayat for their performance regarding the POTA bIll –

      University Malaya associate professor of law Azmi Sharom says Pakatan has failed Malaysians after more than 20 Opposition MPs were absent during the passing of the Bill.

      Other headlines include the following:

      Can we forgive MIA parliamentarians?
      Malaysiakini

      Pakatan Mps’ Absenteeism A Betrayal Of The People’s Trust
      malaysiandigest.com …

      Pakatan Rakyat goofed in regard to POTA
      Free Malaysia Today

      Can we forgive MIA Parliamentarians? — Sofia Zulkarnain
      Malay Mail Online

      Pakatan betrayed Malaysians by allowing passage of Pota
      Malay Mail Online ‎

      PR MPs will have to explain absence when Pota was passed
      The Rakyat Post

      Live with your guilt, you truant MPs
      Free Malaysia Today
      malaysiandigest.com

      NAME & SHAME ‘MISSING’ PAKATAN MPS: Where were you when you were …
      Malaysia Chronicle

      Pakatan betrayed Malaysians by allowing passage of Pota
      Aliran Monthly

      Yes, Pakatan Rakyat will be looked down by the rakyat. They will pecah.


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