Musa: Ramli is the ‘White Knight of PDRM’

Former IGP Tan Sri Musa Hassan, still a crime fighter

Former IGP Tan Sri Musa Hassan, still a crime fighter

“He is the ‘White Knight’ of PDRM”, dry sarcasm by former IGP Tan Srì Musa Hassan as he smirked when asked to comment about former CCID Ramli Yusuff ‘s recent statement about Musa “Abusing his powers”.

“Someone is giving him the platform to attack me”.

“He should be investigated”, when asked to comment on Ramli’s declaration to the Police Disciplinary Officer dated 4 Sept 2007 on the listed 52 assets of ‘unexplained Wealth‘. “I’m not like Ramli. I don’t influence the (current) IGP”. Musa also asked “Why link me with only one fellow (Tengku Goh)? Why not I linked myself with 1o other Underworld Kingpins? Better, I could make more money! (with having linkages with many Lords of the Underworld Vices)”.

“He is a salaried civil servant. As a civil servant, we may live a life of comfort. Not a life of luxury. Probably he has ‘links’ somewhere”, when asked about Ramli having relationship or linkages to ‘undesirable individuals’ and making a declaration for accumulated wealth beyond his means as a Police officer.

Musa was giving a media conference for the newly formed anti-crime NGO MyWatch. “Investigate all cases. We have to be fair. Crime is crime, who ever does it”.

He made suggestion that Federal Government disclose full information on crimes. “Disclose the full picture. Not just street crimes. There are other crimes. We want to know about all these crimes also. Not just the statistics which is affecting NKRA results. There are confusion”.

When asked about his linage for coming out and speaking against these crimes figures, “No. This is not politically motivated. I’m not politically linked or a politician”.

Musa also said in the same media conference that when former MACC Advisory Panel Member Robert Phang came to see him when he was the IGP. The latter offered to be an ‘Adviser to IGP’.

“I refused. Why do I need an ‘Adviser’?”.

Musa also revealed that Phang’s involvement in a large communications project in PDRM. However, the project wasnt completed and the project superintendent refused to commission the project.

“He threatened the Police officer! If the Police officer refuse to commission the project, he threatened to transfer the Police officer out”. It is believed the project is called RMPnet.

It is obvious that Robert Phang is the sort of man who abuses his position of authority and influence. The latest is Datuk Rocky’s posting, where he admitted his abuse and interference with a statutory declarationIn the past, Phang even wanted to bribe a KSU of a very tactical Ministry, which has power over security matters.

The person mentioned in Phang’s SD is lawyer Rosli Dahlan, who is a close associate and probably a partner-in-crime with Ramli Yusuff. There are real issues here that warrants an thorough investigation, not only by Police, MACC, but also Bank Negara and Royal Customs (for money laundering) and  Inland Revenue Board (for tax evasion and failure to disclose ‘unexplained wealth’).

On the issue of integrity of PDRM and some Police officers, Musa said he didn’t agree with the suggestion of IPCMC. “There are three clauses of IPCMC that I dont agree. 1. Commissioners can investigate any Police officers who abuse their powers. 2. Commissioners have the powers to punish 3. Commissioners also have the powers to recommend investigated Police officers to be charged BUT the Police officers have no right of appeal. Police officers investigated have no recourse”.

“Instead, I suggested to then Prime Minister (Abdullah Ahmad Badawi) to have a Police Integrity Commission. Credible personalities could appointed as Commissioners. However, nothing happened”.

Musa admitted majority of Police personnel are good officers and living within their means. “Only a handful are bad hats”.

*Updated 500pm

This is what Free Malaysia Today reported:

‘Black knight’ Musa vs ‘White knight’ Ramli

Teoh El Sen

| December 10, 2012

The former IGP took a swipe at his critics for portraying him as the bad cop out to destroy the PDRM.

PETALING JAYA: Former Inspector-General of Police Musa Hassan today lashed out at his critics, especially his former colleagues Ramli Yusuff and Mat Zain Ibrahim, suggesting that they have strong backing from powerful figures.

“I think this Ramli, he has strong influence with IGP [Ismail Omar] and the police,” he told a press conference here.

“From the outside, it seems like he’s the white knight, saviour of PDRM [Royal Malaysian Police]… while I’m the black knight who is destroying PDRM… the picture has been painted as such,” he said when asked about Ramli’s unending crusade against him.

Musa, the patron of the new anti-crime NGO MyWatch, said that he suspects that Ramli has the backing of certain powerful figures that he did not name.

“I just want to know who is behind him… who has given him this platform to attack me,” he said.

Musa maintained that he had no links with underworld figures, a claim that Ramli, retired Commercial Crimes Investigation Department (CCID) director, has repeated, and instead asked the latter himself to answer to the public.

“He should answer to the public… how he owns so much riches and wealth when he was still in service. Even I don’t have so much…”

Musa said despite the courts clearing Ramli of failing to declare some RM27 million worth of assets, for him, it was still an unresolved question.

How could a police officer only holding the post of CCID director amass such money? he asked.

Asked if he was implying Ramli was linked to “undesirable individuals”, Musa said: “It is hard for me to answer. Because those who have wealth of that nature will have some links somewhere.”

He also denied former KL CID chief Mat Zain’s claim that he (Musa) had fabricated evidence, relating to three reports on the injuries Opposition Leader Anwar Ibrahim received while in police custody in 1998.

Mat Zain had said: “I state, yet again, that I am willing to declare under oath in any judicial proceeding or before any judge that there was indeed an agreement between [Attorney-General Abdul] Gani [Pattail] and Musa to use Dr Abdul Rahman [Yusof] to fabricate the three so-called special reports on the injuries Anwar received while in police custody in 1998.”

Musa said he has no knowledge about any such reports, declaring that he has no power to order any doctor to do anything.

“He [Mat Zain] is the one who investigated the case. He should have the reports,” he said.

He said Mat Zain, along with Ramli, was trying to discredit him.

“They are plainly trying to stop me from speaking out. These people are back in operation. They have to say something. They know I can’t stand this kind of things, so this is a preemptive strike by them,” Musa said.

“Let me ask them now: who are the real kingpins? Why have there been no actions [taken]?”

Defamation suit

Musa also denied rumours that he is coming out now because his request to be made the Malaysian High Commissioner to Brunei was turned down, saying that he had in fact rejected the offer.

“I was [in fact] offered the post [but] I refused. I am a policeman,” he said.

Meanwhile, MyWatch chairman R Sri Sanjeevan said that his NGO was giving former Malaysian Anti-Corruption Commission adviser Robert Phang three days to apologise and retract comments he made about the organisation.

“He has mentioned in his statement that MyWatch is bankrolled by underworld syndicates. I will give him a grace period of three days to apologise for his statement, or we will initiate a defmation suit against him.”

“He has no clue about MyWatch. If he is defaming us, he is indirectly defaming Musa,” said Sri Sanjeevan.

Meanwhile, MyWatch adviser S Gobi Krishnan denied that the NGO was politically linked.

“MyWatch is an NGO… neutral. I can be a party member, but MyWatch doesn’t take instructions from anyone, or report to anyone.”

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  1. I think you mean no recourse

  2. Musa said Ramli should be investigated for his living beyond his mean.

    In the mid 1990,the stock market boom,almost all police office from IGP to Inspector involved in shares market.Making one or two millions a month is normal.I dont think is an offence if you declare your income properly.

    The penlem with Musa,he is not well qualified acedamically.I was suprise we have IGP with no qualification.

    Musa cannot denied he had no connection with underworld boss.The evidences are all over.Ask Tan Sri Khalid the current deputy IGP,how Musa intefer with his work as Selangor CPO.Khalid and his boys really undermine BK Tan operation in Selangor.

    • Some my readers are right. You comment without proper facts.

      Musa Hassan did his law post graduate at University Abberystwyth in 1982.

      Since you are not bringing productivity to the debate, this would be your last comment in this blog. Please take your thoughts elsewhere.

  3. Now I know why the IPCMC was not implemented. The then IGP Musa objected.

    Ordinarily, a Prime Minister would have found ways to have it accepted and implemented. Especially after setting up the commission to study Police issues and to make recommendations. But then “flip flopping, auto-piloting and sleepy” Tun Dol was the PM.

    And he had a Home Minister, Azmi Khalid, who dashed to Beijing, bowing down to the Chinese there, apologizing for the Police standard operating procedure making a woman squat naked to determine if she was hiding drugs in her front receptacle. Only to be told later that it was a Malaysian woman, not a Chinese national. What utter shame for the country, a Minister rushing to apologize for a non-event, such a stupid mistake.

    But then, why didn’t Musa (wasn’t he IGP at that time?) inform the Minister? Was it as a result of his finding “a Minister’s interference in Police affairs” intolerable, too? He certainly was wrong in having that stand. He should know that the British PM David Cameron even “complained in public” about British Police lack of stern action in controlling rioting on London streets some time back.

    Now I also know why Musa’s service was not renewed on contract basis beyond the retirement age.

  4. Now I know why the IPCMC was not implemented. The then IGP Musa objected.

    Ordinarily, a Prime Minister would have found ways to have it accepted and implemented. Especially after setting up the commission to study Police issues and to make recommendations. But then “flip flopping, auto-piloting and sleepy” Tun Dol was the PM.

    And he had a Home Minister, Azmi Khalid, who dashed to Beijing, bowing down to the Chinese there, apologizing for the Police standard operating procedure making a woman squat naked to determine if she was hiding drugs in her front receptacle. Only to be told later that it was a Malaysian woman, not a Chinese national. What utter shame for the country, a Minister rushing to apologize for a non-event, such a stupid mistake.

    But then, why didn’t Musa (wasn’t he IGP at that time?) inform the Minister? Was it as a result of his finding “a Minister’s interference in Police affairs” intolerable, too? He certainly was wrong in having that stand. He should know that the British PM David Cameron even “complained in public” about British Police lack of stern action in controlling rioting on London streets some time back.

    Now I also know why Musa’s service was not renewed on contract basis beyond the retirement age. Musa’s own press conference was very revealing.

    • Thanks.

      PM ‘Flip-Flop’ Abdullah’s instruction for then Home Minister Azmi Khalid to go to Beijing was an impulsive one. Don’t think the Police finished the findings on the said matter yet, especially when the story about “A Chinese national being made to ear-squat in the nude in Police lockup” was hyped up by non other than Teresa Kok in Parliament.

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    • We can tell the communist kind of dogged determination of the Malaysiakini blokes. Repeatedly told that that blog is not welcomed, they couldn’t care less.

      Of course they have their goons tasked to do the job of advertising. Especially when it’s free. And starting at 5:49 am, too.

      But we also have our cyber troopers – the unpaid kind who simply cannot stand their ways of twisting, slanting and spinning. So, we whack them every time they appear here and there.

      No such thing as free malaysiakini nonsense. The shit they put out may raise blood pressure and we end up having to pay the doctor’s bill.

  6. MyWatch Chairman said, “He has mentioned in his statement that MyWatch is bankrolled by underworld syndicates. I will give him a grace period of three days to apologise for his statement, or we will initiate a defmation suit against him.”

    We must now observe this happening. One way or the other. Not to instigate them. But to make sure that the warring parties settle their differences. They are dragging the name of the country down by their endless bickering.

    A former IGP and and a former CCID. Where in the world does this sort of thing happen. Even countries previously called “banana republics” are no longer bananas like this.

    • Actually airing of differences or coming to one’s self-defence, is quite a healthy exercise, unlike some 1st world countries where the “right” noises are perpetually made by the ruling party.

      Then everything gets swept under the carpet. Case closed.

  7. Musa has to take responsibility. Ramli was in the post during his watch. The buck stops at Musa. He can sue Ramli and get a Court Order not to repeat the allegations against Musa.

    The Court can decide who is right between them. Both of them can then shut up.

  8. [...] Ramli Yusuff is taking former IGP Tan Sri Musa Hassan to court. This is on the  latter’s ‘White Knight, Black Knight’ statement  about the former being allowed and given a platform to systematically attack Musa. Musa made this [...]

  9. If strong discipline and respect for command existed during the time when TS Musa was the IGP, we would not have seen the bitter bickering amongst the top brasses in PDRM. Ramli and a few senior police officers just could not accept the fact that TS Musa was appoiinted the IGP instead of one of them. Musa was at one time under the command of Ramli in CID.

    They then went for each others’ throats. The image of the PDRM was at its lowest ebb. The public lost confidence in the Police. It has not recovered till now.

    Musa they claimed, was less qualified than them. Musa was appointed due to his good relatilionship with then IGP TS Mohd. Bakri Omar.

    Musa is not to be blamed when the the government of Pak Lah decided not to establish the IPCMC.

    The government would proceed to create the IPCMC whether MUsa agreed or disagreed provided it had the political will.

    MAT KAMPAU

  10. […] particularly Riong Kali dot com news portal. As such, it drew a response from Musa by calling Rami “The ‘White Knight’ of PDRM”. Later, Musa also added that there is an unnamed politician who is giving Ramli the […]

  11. Awaiting moderation? I guess the truth hurts…


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